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Russia's Likely Death Toll in Ukraine Revealed in Government Filing
Newsweek ^
| Oct. 13, 2023
| Isabel van Brugen
Posted on 10/13/2023 5:05:16 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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sounds plausible ... a lot more believable than Shoigu's "6000" number, anyway
using the 3:1 injured/killed ratio would mean Russia has lost 400,000 troops
which would explain why Putin had to do another 300,000 mobilization 1 year ago ...
To: canuck_conservative
Let’s fight Ruzzia to the last Ukrainian life!
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posted on
10/13/2023 5:06:56 PM PDT
by
E. Pluribus Unum
(The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
40,000,000 / 100,000 = damn, they can only last for another 400 years
actually longer, because it doesn’t include those yet to be born ... so, maybe 600 years ...
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posted on
10/13/2023 5:09:45 PM PDT
by
canuck_conservative
(there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
“Isabel van Brugen”, who has never been known to be curious about the wholesale slaughter of the press-ganged Ukrainian cannon fodder...
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posted on
10/13/2023 5:12:02 PM PDT
by
kiryandil
(China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
To: canuck_conservative
Significant yes. Enough to force Russia to back off Ukraine, no.
Russia has a history of taking substantial losses. My estimate is that it will take on the order of 500,000 KIA to get Russia to withdraw.
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posted on
10/13/2023 5:13:21 PM PDT
by
taxcontrol
(The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
“Let’s fight Ruzzia to the last Ukrainian life!”
LOL. Using the Ruzzian artillery advantage of 10:1, that would mean 1 MILLION Ukrainians dead. No wonder they’re reduced to press-ganging Geriatrics.
...and for what, to try to settle some blood feud that a handful of Neocons have? SICK.
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posted on
10/13/2023 5:13:43 PM PDT
by
BobL
(Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
To: canuck_conservative
When no one here cares anymore about Ukraine what’s your new gig gonna be?
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posted on
10/13/2023 5:15:07 PM PDT
by
cabojoe
( 🇺🇸 Stop Ukie censorship. Release Gonzalo Lira)
To: kiryandil
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posted on
10/13/2023 5:17:34 PM PDT
by
cabojoe
( 🇺🇸 Stop Ukie censorship. Release Gonzalo Lira)
ransomnote: He's an interesting speaker and I plan to listen to the whole recording now that I listened to the first 10 minutes. I put a few excerpts below, and put a few sections in bold text for emphasis. He's British, former military and former NATO member.
The transcript is computer generated so there are word choice errors, but I find it worth reading.
EXCERPT:
I saw the
other day you may well have seen it uh
an eight 800w oped by Ben Wallace in the
Daily
Telegraph I have never seen so much
scandalous lying in my life it is
disgraceful he is telling us one last
push and Ukraine Army is going to win
he's talked about um a half a million
Russian casualties and the loss of two
two 2,500 armored uh armored vehicles
none of this is true the long and short
of it is Ukraine Army is being badly
beaten and the war is virtually over
now
now what we need to do is understand
how this came about how did this come
about how did this crazy unnecessary
criminal War come about one wonders well
it is about regime change so it's you
could trade it back further than 2008
but 2008 is a good time to go back
too where it became uh
policy uh of Washington Washington's
policy and its puppet nature because
NATO is simply just a puppet uh of the
Neo conu Washington now
I speak as the
ex obviously NATO NATO member NATO
supporter in the days of the Soviet
Union the N NATO was a very good thing
uh NATO protected us from a rather
unpleasant regime heavily militarized
regime the Soviet Union those days have
gone now theyve gone what we can't seem
to understand is that the Soviet Union
is no more and we can't move on in this
country we have to move on Washington
has to move on European nations in NATO
have to move on
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posted on
10/13/2023 5:19:26 PM PDT
by
ransomnote
(IN GOD WE TRUST)
To: canuck_conservative
So putin’s war has cost at least a quarter-million lives.
And he wants Israel to go easy on Hamas. Or else there will be... consequences.
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posted on
10/13/2023 5:19:37 PM PDT
by
Steely Tom
([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
To: cabojoe; JonPreston
When no one here cares anymore
and yet, you cared enough to click on the thread and respond
maybe Jon will be along soon too, to say how much he doesn't care ...
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posted on
10/13/2023 5:23:34 PM PDT
by
canuck_conservative
(there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
To: canuck_conservative
Good Feel Story Of The Day.
Thanks for posting!
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posted on
10/13/2023 5:25:42 PM PDT
by
SpeedyInTexas
(RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
To: canuck_conservative
You know who’s paying all of these expenses for the 450,000 dead Ukrainian boys? Our grandchildren will be. We’re also paying the salaries of the entire satrapy. Don’t forget the pensions we’re paying for all pensioners, dead and alive.
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posted on
10/13/2023 5:28:35 PM PDT
by
hardspunned
(Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
To: canuck_conservative
I clicked because you posted it, could care less about the title.
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posted on
10/13/2023 5:31:04 PM PDT
by
cabojoe
( 🇺🇸 Stop Ukie censorship. Release Gonzalo Lira)
To: ransomnote
“I have never seen so much
scandalous lying in my life it is
disgraceful he is telling us one last
push and Ukraine Army is going to win
he’s talked about um a half a million
Russian casualties”
It’s become so bad that Baghdad Bob would blush.
I’m see a lot of reports that Russia has started their offensive again. The reports seem to indicate thousands of tanks on the move, but they are moving very slow and deliberate.
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posted on
10/13/2023 5:39:49 PM PDT
by
MNDude
To: ransomnote
In any case, it seems all of the reports are claiming victory for whichever side they are on. The Pro Ukraine videos are screaming victory for Ukraine. The Pro Russian videos are screaming victory for Russia.
My guess is we won’t know for a month or two based on if Russia is stopped in their tracks, or if they’ve advanced considerably.
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posted on
10/13/2023 5:48:31 PM PDT
by
MNDude
To: BobL
“”” Using the Ruzzian artillery advantage of 10:1, that would mean 1 MILLION Ukrainians dead.”””
What 10 to 1 advantage? This isn’t early 2022, you didn’t watch the evolving artillery situation in Ukraine and what it is today?
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posted on
10/13/2023 6:11:46 PM PDT
by
ansel12
((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
To: BobL
artillery advantage of 10:1
link, please
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posted on
10/13/2023 6:21:32 PM PDT
by
canuck_conservative
(there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
To: MNDude
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Russia's Likely Death Toll in Ukraine Revealed in Government Filing, MNDude wrote: |
In any case, it seems all of the reports are claiming victory for whichever side they are on. The Pro Ukraine videos are screaming victory for Ukraine. The Pro Russian videos are screaming victory for Russia. My guess is we won’t know for a month or two based on if Russia is stopped in their tracks, or if they’ve advanced considerably. |
I agree that there's propaganda on both sides.
I base my assertion that the Ukraine is losing is the reports of people who have been more accurate than others in the 'fog of war' (propaganda storm) and then the manuevers of Poland, Biden etc. as they drop funding for the Ukraine. In particular, Poland's interactions with the Ukraine seem to indicate Biden has given Poland to 'get tough' with the Ukraine - that way Biden fakes like he's still supporting the Ukraine while Poland does the 'dirty work.'
But -I know there's fake fake fake out there and I am turning to the people I suspect are seeing through the lies better than others.
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posted on
10/13/2023 6:35:20 PM PDT
by
ransomnote
(IN GOD WE TRUST)
To: canuck_conservative
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posted on
10/13/2023 6:37:01 PM PDT
by
BobL
(Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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