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Is It Time to Ban Electric Vehicles?
townhall.com ^ | 8/15/2023 | Stephen Moore

Posted on 08/15/2023 8:13:08 AM PDT by rktman

The New York Fire Department recently reported that so far this year there have been 108 lithium-ion battery fires in New York City, which have injured 66 people and killed 13. According to FDNY Commissioner Laura Kavanagh, "There is not a small amount of fire, it (the vehicle) literally explodes." The resulting fire is "very difficult to extinguish and so it is particularly dangerous."

Last year there were more than 200 fires from batteries from e-bikes, EVs and other devices.

A fire ignited at an e-bike shop and killed four people near midnight on the morning of June 20. Two individuals were left in critical condition. The fire commissioner has warned New Yorkers that such devices could be very dangerous and typically explode in such a way that renders escape impossible.

FDNY also reports that in just three years, lithium-ion battery fires have surpassed those started by cooking and smoking as the most common causes of fatal fires in New York City. It's happening all over the country as these blazes have become commonplace. Cars and e-bikes are randomly blowing up in driveways and garages.

Now let's be honest: 13 deaths in a city the size of New York with some 8 million people is hardly an epidemic. Regulations should always be based on a cost versus benefit calculation, or there would be no cars at all.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: automotive; chat; climageddon; electric; ev; evfires; savingerf
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Blasphemy! How dare you! Be gone earth killer! LOL!
1 posted on 08/15/2023 8:13:08 AM PDT by rktman
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At a minimum, they should be required to carry hazard insurance for any fires they cause.


2 posted on 08/15/2023 8:17:29 AM PDT by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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To: rktman

Outside of Golf Carts electric vehicles should have neve been a thing.

The technology was never mature to the level it is currently being subsidized too.


3 posted on 08/15/2023 8:17:59 AM PDT by Skwor
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"There is not a small amount of fire, it (the vehicle) literally explodes."

Like a 'mostly peaceful demonstration'...

4 posted on 08/15/2023 8:18:38 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Magnum44

Husha boom?


5 posted on 08/15/2023 8:20:04 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉)
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To: rktman

Drill, Baby, Drill.


6 posted on 08/15/2023 8:21:18 AM PDT by Paladin2
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If they ban EVs in NYC, will the city council vote that residents can drive their gas stoves that they have been forcibly retired and are gathering dust in the basement?


7 posted on 08/15/2023 8:21:21 AM PDT by chuckee ( )
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Last time I was in a downtown city parking garage last year, a sign welcomed customers directing owners GM EV’s to park elsewhere.

When lithium batteries first came out in the R/C racing world, I made my son charge them outdoors. He had them swell, but never erupt. Pretty unstable stuff at the time.


8 posted on 08/15/2023 8:21:47 AM PDT by IamConservative (I was nervous like the third chimp in line for the Ark after the rain started.)
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Shouldn’t the ban be on the specific unsafe batteries and not EV vehicles or batteries that have been engineered to be safer.


9 posted on 08/15/2023 8:23:40 AM PDT by DannyTN
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“Now let’s be honest: 13 deaths in a city the size of New York with some 8 million people is hardly an epidemic. Regulations should always be based on a cost versus benefit calculation, or there would be no cars at all.”

What is the cost benefit when it is you or your loved one? What benefit was obtained that equaled the cost of these lives and the damage to property?
What is the benefit when the manufacturing & disposal involves hazardous waste & health issues for those doing the mining?
What about the roads getting 4x the wear from the added weight of electric vehicles?
What about the people stranding in an evacuation or storms etc?

The author has a very skewed outlook.


10 posted on 08/15/2023 8:25:15 AM PDT by JayGalt
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Nah, don’t ban them. Just remove every government subsidy in the entire green energy supply chain. That will put an end to EV’s by an entirely natural death.


11 posted on 08/15/2023 8:26:20 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (The Delay Trump’s trial, delay. Elect Trump President. Trump pardons himself. )
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The EV mandate by the climate morons is going to collapse very soon.


12 posted on 08/15/2023 8:30:05 AM PDT by beethovenfan (The REAL Great Reset will be when Jesus returns. )
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To: rktman

Spontaneous combustion of electric vehicles (particularly those with lithium batteries) is well known. How many ICE vehicles spontaneously combust every year?


13 posted on 08/15/2023 8:35:00 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants ( "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."- Mark Twain)
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TG would have you believe it's 100k+

Maybe he can be banned as well.

14 posted on 08/15/2023 8:36:52 AM PDT by Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness (Jesus rides beside me, He never buys any smokes)
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To: taxcontrol
At a minimum, they should be required to carry hazard insurance for any fires they cause.

The additional cost of insurance to extinguish a lithium battery inferno will make EVs even more unattractive. The cost should not be born by local taxpayers. It is a moving hazard on wheels that could ignite in a variety of locations.

15 posted on 08/15/2023 8:40:05 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: DannyTN

Which batteries are safe? Are any?


16 posted on 08/15/2023 8:41:00 AM PDT by FreedomForce
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Nah, just ban the battery tech that spontaneously combusts. There will be new chemistries produced, but until then the vehicles aren’t ready for general usage.


17 posted on 08/15/2023 8:41:38 AM PDT by glorgau
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I don’t know. But instead of banning cars, they should set a safety standard for batteries and only allow the ones that meet that to be sold.

If that kills EV’s, so be it. But the ban should be a specific as possible, limiting it to the actual problem.


18 posted on 08/15/2023 8:43:44 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: beethovenfan

how will it collapse if gas cars are banned?

and if it does

even more will be forced onto public transportation


19 posted on 08/15/2023 9:03:20 AM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: DannyTN

the point of the evs is to force people onto public transportation


20 posted on 08/15/2023 9:05:08 AM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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