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Why electric vehicles are ‘piling up’ at dealerships, despite massive taxpayer subsidies
chathamjournal.com ^ | July 29, 2023 | By Jon Miltimore

Posted on 07/30/2023 11:01:39 AM PDT by RomanSoldier19

Ford Motor recently announced it is slashing prices on its F-150 Lightning, an electric vehicle the company rolled out in 2021.

The Lightning now carries a suggested retail price of $49,995, about $10,000 lower than its previous recommended price tag ($59,974), a reduction the company says is possible because of lower “battery raw material costs and continued work on scaling production and cost.”

It’s certainly possible that reduced overhead from battery minerals and production costs played a role in Ford’s decision to trim its price tag by nearly 20 percent, but that may be only half the story.

Several reports show EVs are not exactly flying off dealership lots. In fact, there’s a glut of them.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: automotive; bidenflation; bidenrecession; dealers; electric; electricvehicle; electricvehicles; ev; evs; ford; recession; scam
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1 posted on 07/30/2023 11:01:39 AM PDT by RomanSoldier19
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To: RomanSoldier19

I can’t speak for everybody, but EV or not, a $50,000+ vehicle is not what I’m budgeted for. Even $30,000 is within my means, it is still a little north of my comfort level.


2 posted on 07/30/2023 11:04:33 AM PDT by Antihero101607
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To: RomanSoldier19

Put the EVs on a cargo ship and sent it to the North Sea. The EVs can self-ignite and burn like other EVs that have gone there.


3 posted on 07/30/2023 11:04:56 AM PDT by Carl Vehse (Move the Overton window to the right with defenestration.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Honestly if you feel like you have to/ want to go this route, hybrids are the best and safest way to go, plus charging issues are not the full ev problem issues.

Their designs are more stable overall. They are not exploding and or burning down peoples houses or catching fire while driving. And with some models, you can replace the battery pack yourself.


4 posted on 07/30/2023 11:06:17 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Antihero101607

The sticker price is just the beginning


5 posted on 07/30/2023 11:07:58 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: RomanSoldier19

Seems we have to have a song regarding Evies catching on fire. How about this Talking Heads song burning down the house.
https://youtu.be/_3eC35LoF4U


6 posted on 07/30/2023 11:08:14 AM PDT by ncfool (TRUMP SHOULD BE THE KING MAKER IN 2024 AND NOT THE KING. --)
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To: RomanSoldier19

cuz they are overpriced crap?


7 posted on 07/30/2023 11:08:15 AM PDT by mylife (I was a sort of country boy, a cockeyed optimist, wrapped in international intrigue and espionage)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Turning natural gas into diesel fuel - May. 9, 2012
WebMay 9, 2012 · Turning natural gas into diesel fuel By Steve
https://money.cnn.com/2012/05/09/news/economy/natural-gas-diesel/index.htm

Diesel Hybrid Pickup Trucks - Fuel Economy - Truckin’ …
WebFeb 1, 2006 · A diesel hybrid is similar to a gasoline-electric vehicle such as the Ford
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/0602tr-diesel-hybrid-pickup-trucks/


8 posted on 07/30/2023 11:09:24 AM PDT by RomanSoldier19 (Res ad Triarios venit;“We are your ghosts, in this game played by monkeys, organized by lunatics” )
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To: RomanSoldier19

Several reasons I suspect. First is the cost. There’s only a certain segment of the population that can afford the luxury of a 50 k plus second vehicle. Second is the fact that actual range is nowhere near the advertised number particularly in very cold or very hot weather and last may be the spate of spontaneous fires that as more and more of these glorified golf carts enter service will no doubt increase. In reality EVs are not fit for purpose and people are beginning to realize it.


9 posted on 07/30/2023 11:09:50 AM PDT by technically right
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To: RomanSoldier19

I’ve already explained this, but if the articles keep popping up, I’ll keep explaining it, YET AGAIN:

The people who NEEDED electric cars to show off to their friends (Tier 1 customers) now have their electric cars, so no more of those sales. The next market (Tier 2) are people who consider EVs to be a better VALUE for their cost, when factoring in their usefulness.

Unfortunately for the EV-Pushers, the government has not yet required Facebook and other sites to SPIKE reports of EV Fires, EV Costs, etc. So these Tier 2 customers are just saying NO to EVs, as they don’t see a downside in gasoline vehicles, which have essentially been PERFECTED by now, with excellent fuel consumption (certainly in hybrids), and virtually no tailpipe pollutants.

So, it was fun to have our ‘fling’ with EVs, but now cold, hard, market forces are making their way through the ranks.


10 posted on 07/30/2023 11:09:59 AM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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To: gibsonguy

I have never seen a good cost breakdown of electric vs. gas powered cars.

For example, they say how much you save on gas, because you never get gas in an electric car. But how much does the electricity cost you? That’s what I have never seen broken out.

Also, what about having to replace costly battery packs? Some people say it will happen every 5 years, but I’ve heard you might get 10 years. I don’t know any details, just what I’ve heard.

I’ve heard you save on oil changes and other routine maintenance, but have never seen that broken out. Is there really no regular maintenance at all needed on electric cars?

The bigger capital cost for these electric cars is supposedly offset by all your savings elsewhere. But I’ve never seen any details on it.


11 posted on 07/30/2023 11:11:36 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: RomanSoldier19

Chinese funded pols and NGOs are trying to fabricate some magical EV unicorn world, but it’s not working.


12 posted on 07/30/2023 11:11:43 AM PDT by AAABEST ( NY/DC/CA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: Antihero101607

1. Totally unreliable and unpredictable
2. FIRE
3. $$$$$$>$$$$$$
4. We as a nation do not have an electric grid to support them
5. I am not an idiot


13 posted on 07/30/2023 11:11:52 AM PDT by EBH (America Blackmailed, The True Story of the World War...Coming Soon (1/21-))
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To: EBH

Those are good reasons.


14 posted on 07/30/2023 11:13:21 AM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: Secret Agent Man

> hybrids are the best and safest way to go <

I thought the same. But this Popular Science article says hybrid cars are more dangerous.

https://www.popsci.com/technology/electric-vehicle-fire-rates-study/


15 posted on 07/30/2023 11:14:41 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: BobL

Tier 1 was smaller than the “experts” thought it would be—because a large number of urban virtue signaling wannabes in the older urban areas park their cars on urban streets where home recharging is not an option.

Imagine keeping one of these things on street parking in Boston or New York or Chicago...imagine snow banks piled on top of them...


16 posted on 07/30/2023 11:14:58 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Carl Vehse

If enough EV’s set fire to enough cargo ships at sea, could that possibly reduce the sea level? Or at least make Guam tip over?


17 posted on 07/30/2023 11:15:27 AM PDT by Bernard ("No matter where you go, there you are." (Buckaroo Banzai))
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To: cgbg

“Imagine keeping one of these things on street parking in Boston or New York or Chicago...imagine snow banks piled on top of them”

VERY TRUE - just street parking ends that option for the Tier 1 city dwellers. Snow just ends things.

Still some Tier 1 types outside of the cities, but thankfully, there’s typically better mental health facilities in the suburbs also.


18 posted on 07/30/2023 11:18:51 AM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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To: BobL

I never had a “fling” with an EV. That would be like having a fling with a transgender.


19 posted on 07/30/2023 11:21:13 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

No EVs!

No biden!

No Democrats!

No RINOs!

No! Never! Niemals!


20 posted on 07/30/2023 11:22:01 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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