I have never seen a good cost breakdown of electric vs. gas powered cars.
For example, they say how much you save on gas, because you never get gas in an electric car. But how much does the electricity cost you? That’s what I have never seen broken out.
Also, what about having to replace costly battery packs? Some people say it will happen every 5 years, but I’ve heard you might get 10 years. I don’t know any details, just what I’ve heard.
I’ve heard you save on oil changes and other routine maintenance, but have never seen that broken out. Is there really no regular maintenance at all needed on electric cars?
The bigger capital cost for these electric cars is supposedly offset by all your savings elsewhere. But I’ve never seen any details on it.
I have never seen a good cost breakdown of electric”
And you probably never will. Many costs are kept on the down low. Just to name two, tires last maybe half as long because of the weight, insurance will go way up because what would usually be a fender bender becomes a totaled car because most of underbody is battery and it gets damaged it’s often game over plus the fire hazard.
I have never seen a good cost breakdown of electric vs. gas powered cars.
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Yes, they are skewing the numbers so the EV looks better.
For example the mpge - miles per gallon equivalent defines electricity as the thermal equivalents of burning gallon of fuel. That ignores that electricity has to be make somewhere and making electricity is not 100% efficient.
Since electricity generation is actually 30% - 40% effective on average, then the real mpge is about third of the listed number. So the impressive 100 MPGe really translates too about 30mpg. Not so impressive.
In terms of cost EV are cheaper mostly because the prices of gas (penalized by many taxes and cartel surcharges) and electricity (subsidized) are different.
“I have never seen a good cost breakdown of electric vs. gas powered cars.
For example, they say how much you save on gas, because you never get gas in an electric car. But how much does the electricity cost you? That’s what I have never seen broken out.”
How many times are you going to post that nonsense!
“Also, what about having to replace costly battery packs? Some people say it will happen every 5 years, but I’ve heard you might get 10 years. I don’t know any details, just what I’ve heard.”
Data shows batteries are lasting longer than expected. One even went over a million miles.
Based on annual mileage estimates provided by the Department of Transportation (DOT), the average car owner can expect to spend between 22 and 37 years behind the wheel.
According to CleanTechnica, one Tesla Model S owner has racked up more than a million miles behind the wheel. Even though the Tesla battery has held up, the owner has replaced the Tesla motor several times.
https://engineerine.com/tesla-battery-range/
“I’ve heard you save on oil changes and other routine maintenance, but have never seen that broken out.”
Now you can never again make your claims:
https://www.hotcars.com/how-much-ev-owners-save-in-service-costs-compared-to-ices/
There are lies on both sides, so any breakdown of costs is suspicious.
Battery packs can last a long time, up to 20 years. If they are charged correctly. Some people believe they can fast-charge with abandon in high-temp days; that could shorten battery life to 5 years. Currently, replacement costs are high but are quickly coming down as the market matures.
There is little maintenance required on an EV. However, it is still a car prone to all the body and chassis problems of gas powered cars. Tires still need to be aligned and replaced. Suspension components can still break, chassis lubing needs to be done at some point. And the under-chassis can rust due to dirt and salt water exposure. Some people believe no maintenance of EV's is required. But after many thousands of miles, the under-chassis can fall apart, and worse is if the battery casing rusts and allows water intrusion.
As for bigger capital costs, EV's are simply very expensive and not for cost-conscious consumers, at least not for the next few years. Unless you carefully maintain an EV, your cost savings versus an ICE vehicle won't be recouped in the first few years. ICE vehicles can be very expensive when they start breaking down after 5 years, more so than what it would cost to replace an EV battery pack.
Don't believe the hype on either side, and buy what suits you after doing some homework.
One problem with EV’s, among many, is the tires and their price. The EV is heavier and requires tires for the load range so they’re pricier. A lot of older parking garages are posting prohibiting EV’s because the building wasn’t designed for the extra weight. One of the car shows put the three hosts in EV’s and within the first few minutes each one became worried about having enough range and where they could charge up if needed. Add in the fact that even a minor accident will total the car if the battery pack is damaged at all. You don’t repair the battery pack, you replace it. Stories are piling up about EV’s in salvage yards suddenly igniting even if they were untouched for weeks. We don’t have the capacity to recycle the batteries yet either. The time for the EV is not here yet.
“I have never seen a good cost breakdown of electric vs. gas powered cars.”
And you probably won’t.