So these guys are playing a fun type of game, a game for blood!
Posted on 06/23/2023 8:35:54 PM PDT by Widget Jr
Civil War Starts in Russia after Russian forces attacked the Wagner PMC, which has now led to outright war being called between the Russian government and forces loyal to Prighozin. Contact with Vladimir Putin has been lost for now with military blockades being set up around Moscow, and firefights breaking out in the Rostov region of Russia. Meanwhile Ukraine has declared a General offensive across all fronts and is reported to be making massive progress.
Russians have tactical nukes. A few would severely stop much of the forces. Don’t think they wouldn’t do it with collateral damage to innocent citizens. Our government would. They are worse and harder than us. And less encumbered by laws to do it.
Putin has little choice but to back his MoD and Chief of Staff of the Armed Forces. A coup against them is a coup against Putin. Hard to figure where this ends. Is there a way out for Putin other than military confrontation in Moscow?
“Russian media is very confused. 1 Channel is showing a video about the stadium where the world cup took place in ‘18. Immediately after Putin’s appeal to prevent civil war.”
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1672511607182688256
But Putin wouldn’t be able to launch the bomb himself. A dozen different men named Boris with vodka bottles, all with family or distant family in the region, would have to be part of the machinery that deploys and launches a nuke or even just a regular bombing campaign, the latter of which Russians suck at since their usual tactic is to do indiscriminate bombing, not precision bombing. That works fine in an invasion, not so much for internal strikes.
What a dramatic and exciting night, and I was planning to go to bed earlier, 3 am instead of 5:30 am. Best laid plans... Oh, well.
Enjoy useful Russia political map. Pass it on to other sites.
https://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/map/russia-political-map.htm
Socialist draw play, causes dreamers of, and activists for, freedom . . . to take some action and thereby reveal themselves to socialist police state security.
Meanwhile, PMC Wagner continues to operate in Africa, slaughtering Africans, as Moscow wishes.
And Prigozhin is alive, as Moscow wishes.
So these guys are playing a fun type of game, a game for blood!
I have the impression that the various services, are somewhat competitive in the US. Probably even more so in Russia with all the corruption. The fact the Putin has been restricting the use of his air power because he doesn’t want any of his very expensive planes shot down in Ukraine probably has pixxed off a few air force guys with power in that arm of the military.
“Voronezh seems to be visually confirmed secured. Insurgent Russian forces everywhere. No resistance.”
https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1672517189142806529
They also have suitcase nukes.
Some reports saying RUAF now attacking Prigozhin's column near Voronezh.
I checked the weather situation, there is a large area of low cloud over the motorway route north of Voronezh and south of Moscow, which would be in the convoy’s interest more so than the air force (perhaps this was part of their planning). Of course this may not be much of a factor if the air force has access to ground spotters.
Basically a small low east of Moscow and fronts lie further south, keeping some low cloud in place all day probably. It is around noon local time there.
This Prizhogin guy does not sound like he would take a life or death risk but he did once run a casino so I guess he is familiar with gambling. Date of birth is interesting, 6-1-61. I have read that some Biblical scholars believe the number of the beast is 616 and not 666. Watch this very carefully.
Prigozhen:
“On the Moscow highway, one of the asasult units got under fire of helicopters. In the units of PMC Wagner, everybody is intact. The helicopter was destroyed, it’s burning in a tree line.
“I am once again warning everyone: we will consider a threat and destroy everything around. They will not be able to destroy us. We have goals, we are all ready to die. All 25,000. And then another 25,000. Becase we are dying for the Motherland, we’re dying for the Russian people who must be liberated from those people who are striking the civilian population, who were just attacked with a helicopter in Rostov. One pilot, belonging to the FSB, refused to take off and carry out strikes.”
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1672524496064872449
Rybar telegram channel (Pro-War Russian):
“During the night, the old state border of the Russian Federation in the Rostov region was crossed by 1,700 units of civilian and military equipment.”
That took a lot of planning and preparation. Prigozhin’s OPSEC must have been extremely tight.
I have heard it said many times that Wagner operates like a cult. Prigozhen is called “papa” or “father” by his troops.
Great. So replace a corrupt mafia don (pootz) with an outright Stalin II zealot. This will be even worse for russia's neighbors.
I don’t read him as a zealot. I read him as a criminal, which is what he is (he was in prison), an opportunist and a gangster.
That said, he might play the Zealot to keep the loyalty of Russia’s military and legion of 64 year old Babushkas who bray for Ukrainian blood.
I looked at your twitter link at comment #114, and then at the many comments. One states that Kadarov is on the move now. Two armies fighting Putin? Off to Google and more details.
“This is exactly why I never hire private armies.”
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