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Greens want electric cars — but not the things required to run them
New York Post ^ | June 13, 2023 | Glenn H. Reynolds

Posted on 06/13/2023 1:23:22 PM PDT by george76

Why is it that greens want everyone to drive electric cars but don’t want people to have electricity? Or, it seems, the cars

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Fossil and nuclear plants are being taken offline (bye, Indian Point!) while their replacement with “renewables” like wind and solar lags and often fails to produce power when it’s most needed.

Nothing has improved on that front. But the thing about electric cars is that they don’t just need electricity, they also need batteries to store it in. And electric motors.

That’s awkward because those cars and batteries require lots of copper and other metals, plus the extraction of “rare earth” minerals that come mostly from China and Africa, where they’re often produced by child or slave labor.

We used to mine rare earths in America, but the enviros basically got that shut down. It’s easier for companies to get the stuff out of the ground in places where there aren’t sandal-wearing scolds everywhere.

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If you endorse the spread of electric cars, you by extension endorse the extraction of the resources it takes to build and charge them.

If you support a policy but oppose its prerequisites, then you’re either a fool or a fraud. Or maybe both.

A realistic and sensible electric-car policy would support reliable, safe, environmentally friendly power to charge them — which means plants fired by nuclear power and fracked gas.

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If you’re against those things, you’re not being realistic and sensible, and your policy proposals — or demands or mandates, which is what the calls for electric cars have become — should be ignored and even mocked.

Environmentalists are basically against those things, which means that they should be ignored and even mocked.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: automotive; car; cars; electric; electriccars; electricity; electricvehicle; electricvehicles; ev; evs; greens; infrastructure; power
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Agree!


21 posted on 06/13/2023 2:22:11 PM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: Openurmind

Or no energy, no cows no milk nor cheese, no polyesters, no plastic, no asphalt roads
Screw that!


22 posted on 06/13/2023 2:37:56 PM PDT by himno hero (had'nff)
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To: george76

I am shocked!!!


23 posted on 06/13/2023 2:39:40 PM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA. (Owner of Stars and Bars Flags))
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To: Tell It Right

I do like that image! Will save and have available
for my next conversation at the public EV charging stations.
And yes, Tesla owners sure are a haughty bunch, IMO.


24 posted on 06/13/2023 2:40:51 PM PDT by SakoL61R
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To: joshua c

Yes !


25 posted on 06/13/2023 2:50:56 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: george76

Toyota aiming for EV 750 miles on 10 minute charge.
https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1139925_toyota-touts-745-mile-range-10-minute-charge-for-solid-state-battery


26 posted on 06/13/2023 2:54:06 PM PDT by griswold3 (Truth, Beauty and Goodness )
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To: george76

Greenies lack a chromosome.


27 posted on 06/13/2023 2:55:09 PM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: SakoL61R

Only a few EV owners are able to get into details. Mostly Gen X’ers in their mid-life crisis who got an EV because they are sporty to drive, but in typical male Gen X or Baby Boomer fashion didn’t buy the car without first getting a grip on the specs for driving and charging and such like we do about ICE cars (mpg, tank size, how easy it is to reach spark plus, etc.) LOL


28 posted on 06/13/2023 3:11:48 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: griswold3

Still faster to fill up with gas. And there are more gas pumps than charging stations (which you have to wait in line for-which will be longer than 10 minutes.)


29 posted on 06/13/2023 3:29:51 PM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: antidemoncrat

Every horse will be fitted with a catalytic converter on its anus to reduce global warming.


30 posted on 06/13/2023 3:36:29 PM PDT by entropy12 (Career politicians like DeSantis are there to build wealth, Trump is there to serve & lose wealth)
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To: Tell It Right

EV’s can work for daily commute to work in a bigger city. Beyond that, EV’s do not make any rational sense for several more decades to come.


31 posted on 06/13/2023 3:40:39 PM PDT by entropy12 (Career politicians like DeSantis are there to build wealth, Trump is there to serve & lose wealth)
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To: SakoL61R

Makes sense... :)


32 posted on 06/13/2023 3:57:50 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: entropy12
Our EV works for my wife and me on most of our long trips. My wife wants to stop every 200 miles anyway and walk around 10-15 minutes. That's what charging our EV is like anyway (on trips).

Of course, that assumes the trips are in areas that have plenty of fast road-side chargers to choose from. Which we have from Alabama heading most directions (since the eastern portion of the U.S. is somewhat densely populated). We're even talking about a possible road trip to New England and Canada to watch the fall foliage change as we slowly head back -- that long trip has plenty of charging options.

But if we head northwest from here, or due west any further than east Texas, we'll take the ICE pickup because those areas have few chargers. The same for if I go on a trip without my wife (which I haven't done since we bought the EV a year ago) since I'd rather drive longer than 200 miles between stops, and when I stop I feel like I'm running late if the stop takes longer than 5 minutes. LOL

33 posted on 06/13/2023 4:06:33 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: kaktuskid
Still faster to fill up with gas. And there are more gas pumps than charging stations (which you have to wait in line for-which will be longer than 10 minutes.)

I'm sure that's the case in some areas, particularly areas that have lots of EV owners living in apartments (can't charge at home). I haven't experienced that here. Perhaps because EV's are less popular in the southeast (because I live in Alabama, just about any trip we count short enough to drive to instead of fly to is going to be in or near the southeast). And perhaps because the EV owners we have here tend to be home owners who charge at home (thus most EV owners at chargers are just the few who are on trips). Or perhaps because the weather is warm and, therefore, we don't have the slower charging that comes in bitter cold weather up north making the EV owners ahead of me still there.

The end result, we've had our EV for a year, put 26K miles onto it, and I've yet to have to wait in line at a charger. To be clear, the first few times I charged it I had to figure out what to do. But after those first few times, it's a 10-15 minute stop, which is how long my wife wants to walk around when she asks to stop every 200 miles anyway even when we take the ICE pickup.

At least, that's my experience. I can think of many situations where an EV wouldn't be good, especially if you're single and need just one car (because there are situations where only an ICE car will do).

34 posted on 06/13/2023 4:15:17 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: george76

Someone should tell the greenies that all the plastics and synthetics in their EVs are made from oil.


35 posted on 06/13/2023 4:21:39 PM PDT by Fresh Wind
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To: joshua c
the ev is a dodge to get rid of gas cars for the masses.

This!

36 posted on 06/13/2023 4:52:32 PM PDT by flamberge (I am not cynical. I am just a fast learner.)
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To: poconopundit

Don’t forget the tires they have on them better not be made out of oil.


37 posted on 06/13/2023 5:24:00 PM PDT by oldasrocks (uit )
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To: joshua c
it will be shut up and
get on the bus train for a trip to the camp.
38 posted on 06/13/2023 6:20:31 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: oldasrocks

Yes, yes. Sustainable cars require sustainable tires, components, AND sustainable fuel. Accept no substitutes.


39 posted on 06/13/2023 11:26:22 PM PDT by poconopundit (Kayleigh the Shillelagh, I'm disappointed in you....)
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To: eyeamok
"Shouldn’t all electric cars be Prohibited from Using Fossil Fuels for any type of charging??"

If the people pushing this snake oil were honest, 100% correct. But they're not, so they aren't.

40 posted on 06/14/2023 7:44:26 AM PDT by Joe Brower ("Might we not live in a nobler dream than this?" -- John Ruskin)
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