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Quite a few Republican representatives are not happy with the debt ceiling deal, and one vowed not to 'bankrupt our country'
Business Insider, via Yahoo! News ^ | 5/28/2023 | Jyoti Mann

Posted on 05/28/2023 6:55:23 PM PDT by Javeth

Several Republican representatives say they're unhappy with the debt ceiling deal after the White House and House Speaker reached a tentative agreement Saturday night.

Kevin McCarthy said he'd spoken with President Joe Biden on the phone twice and struck a deal in principle after weeks of fraught negotiations.

The deal means the US will avert a national debt default, which could trigger chaos on financial markets and send the dollar sinking – but the legislation still has to pass both the House and the Senate.

Republican Congressmen Ralph Norman and Ken Buck both attacked the agreement.

Norman, of South Carolina, called the deal "insanity" in a tweet and said a debt ceiling increase with "virtually no cuts" was not what had been agreed. He vowed not to vote to "bankrupt our country".

Buck, of Colorado, said he's "appalled" by the "surrender" to raise the debt ceiling. "The bottom line is that the US will have $35 trillion of debt in January, 2025. That is completely unacceptable," he tweeted.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: debt; debtceiling; deficit; deficits; inflation; kevinmccarthy; rinos
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Rep. Norman and Buck are right, this is a complete, revolting, spineless surrender by the GOPe "leadership" to Biden and the Demonrats, hook line and sinker. It was already obvious that Kevin McCarthy was controlled opposition and a RINO traitor, but this goes way beyond craven treachery. This is open, treasonous collusion with the Dems and a pointed betrayal of the most fundamental principles of American conservatism, and at a crucial moment when the our very movement and people are at stake. The House of Representatives did it's job by passing a bill that as demanded by our Constitution, it was the responsibility of the Senate and President to take up, and McCarthy pretended to promise that he would settle for nothing less than the provisions of the House Bill at a minimum--we hold the power in these negotiations and the Supreme Court has our back against any unilateral tricks Biden might try. But then McCarthy just gave away the store, all of it, the House bill in effect has been gutted completely and might as well have never passed at all. We got nothing in return, and on a holiday to honor our heroes in uniform no less. Just a small sample of the many back-stabs McCarthy and his "negotiators" are trying to foist on us:

--- Removal of virtually all the cuts to the massive government welfare and freebies that we, the already hard suffering real American taxpayers are forced to foot the bill for, including for illegal aliens who are now being brought in by the millions every year on our dime, put up in plush hotels, given free food and medical care and then de-facto given amnesty for them and their anchor babies, with millions more votes for Democrats. This is a big reason why the United States has $33 trillion in debt, and like those pictures just last week of the caravans at the border showed, it's about to get worse, with heartland Americans being forced to pay for it.

--- Not one single dime for Border Security, that's the flip-side of McCarthy's giveaway on the first point above. So we're going to be spending hundreds of billions more on welfare for illegals in just the next two years while that money's taken away from policing our borders, to bring in even more millions to replace us and drive up welfare costs even more, a vicious cycle. This has been the end-game for Soros and the Demonrats all along, it's why we've lost 7 of the last 8 popular votes in presidential elections even though we're doing better than ever with real Americans in the heartland--just flood the US with the 3rd world to the point that actual tax-paying Americans are overwhelmed, then add voter fraud and the voice of traditional America is swamped out by sheer numbers. And then we lose everything, our most basic rights including our gun rights swamped out by 1,000 cuts, then we lose even our communities and children's future. And even that's not all.

--- McCarthy capitulated completely on forcing student loans onto American taxpayers, basically giving the middle finger to Americans who worked hard in trade schools, or worked hard in affordable colleges to keep costs down and lived below their means to pay their way. Instead, McCarthy's traitor "negotiators" have agreed to subsidize woke universities, professors and administrators with hundreds of billions more in taxpayer dollars that we, in heartland America will be expected to pay for while our own children and communities suffer.

--- Virtually no cuts at all to the outrageous demands by the global warming fanatics. Want a gas stove? An affordable car that runs on gas? Sorry, the government knows better and you'll have to pay $30,000 extra out of your own pocket for that clunky, falling apart "electric vehicle" with no replacement parts that'll run out on you and your kids in the middle of the desert. And McCarthy is OK with this.

--- Cosmetic (at most) changes to the IRS plan, with the new agents of course not doing anything against Democratic billionaires like Soros, Bloomberg, Gates and Iger who have stolen hundreds of billions of dollars from the American people, but you better be sure they'll be coming hard after you and conservative small businesses in heartland America, just like Obama and his little tyrants did against the Tea Party.

--- We don't even get to fight for budget cuts against Democrat bloat in the future, McCarthy's "negotiators" capitulated so completely that we won't be able to debate the debt limit for more than 2 years, and he's basically surrendered our basic rights to ask for cuts in the next appropriations.

This is high treason by McCarthy, the RINO's and their "negotiators" to Biden, Hakeem and the Demonrats. They get their demands gift-wrapped on a silver platter, we get nothing other than even more demands to pay billions to bring in even more millions of illegals to replace us and our families. McCarthy's political goose is cooked now and he's out as Speaker, that's maybe the only silver lining that we now know to reject his unconditional surrender to the Dems and he's shown his true pathetic, capitulating face so we know what he's really about. But the question is whether he'll get to shove this filthy "deal" through before he's removed, in return for all kinds of sweet bribes and favors that Soros and the Demonrats have no doubt promised him.

We actually just returned from a trip to help manage import-export in Greece and Europe, and it makes McCarthy's spineless surrender even more pathetic. Conservative parties across the pond are actually fighting and negotiating hard, even in France. The New York Times and CNN tried to make out the French protests to be all about the retirement age, but the reality is it had very little to do with that, the French conservatives and people on the streets were angry that the government was trying to subsidize mosques and Muslim illegals and force the French people to pay for it. They fought back hard and forced the government to back down, now they're closing down the mosques and kicking the muzzies out, both the illegal and "legal" immigrants, even getting concessions (there and in other EU countries) for gun rights for the people. That's what real conservative leaders do and how they make sure taxpayer money is being well spent.

If McCarthy had one tenth of that kind of backbone we might at least be able to put up a fight. But he folded right at the start and was never serious about fighting for us to begin with. He didn't even make a half hearted effort to stand up for the bill his own chamber passed a few weeks ago. He's perfectly happy to back-stab our people and communities for his own gain when we're already being overwhelmed. Utterly spineless and pathetic.

1 posted on 05/28/2023 6:55:23 PM PDT by Javeth
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To: Javeth

McCarthy is uniparty. Its no surprise at all.


2 posted on 05/28/2023 6:56:55 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

McCarthy was chosen by the treasonous, ever-lying GOP
because they KNEW he would not release the J6 tapes
except to help Pelosi,
and he would continue to LIE to Americans claiming he
won even as he sold out Americans and their children
and their grandchildren to traffickers and Ukraine.

The GOP remains a curse on the USA.


3 posted on 05/28/2023 7:01:47 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: All
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Thank you, oh great one, for allowing us to shave 2% of your Trillions. I hope your treatments went well in Delaware.

Grovel, grovel.

You’re gonna have Scalise and posers come out of the word work to say how this 2% is amazing.


They held all the cards!



4 posted on 05/28/2023 7:02:05 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Statute of Limitations is going to elapse on Hunter Biden )
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To: Javeth

Nobody expected the Repubs to stand up under the Democrat attacks. Folded like cheap suits.


5 posted on 05/28/2023 7:04:18 PM PDT by bray (Dr Fauxi killed millions)
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To: AnthonySoprano

Mccarthy = Paul RYNO


6 posted on 05/28/2023 7:04:53 PM PDT by imabadboy99
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7 posted on 05/28/2023 7:05:59 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Statute of Limitations is going to elapse on Hunter Biden )
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To: All

McCarthy will pass it with Dem votes. Maybe over the GOP majority. Then the measures taken in January will kick in, when the party can demand an immediate vote of no confidence.

It’s why there are 2 years worth of ceiling. He expects to lose the Speakership.


8 posted on 05/28/2023 7:07:25 PM PDT by Owen
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To: Diogenesis

Not all the gop are uniparty. Most of the leadership is. Some newer suck ups are.


9 posted on 05/28/2023 7:13:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Javeth
All the departments should have taken 10% to their budgets. Freeze all hiring until 2025. Cut Defense by 10%. Restart college loan payments. Eliminate the appropriation for 87,000 IRS agents. And none of that climate change crap.

Cutting defense is giving Joe a bone. Besides our military should not be this big. A lot of wasteful spending going on over at the Pentagon.

10 posted on 05/28/2023 7:14:01 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Owen

It’s also a plan to destroy Trump if he gets back in office. This is all pre-planned.


11 posted on 05/28/2023 7:14:55 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects )
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To: Javeth

The deal means the US will avert a national debt default

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What b.s.

There never was going to be a default.


12 posted on 05/28/2023 7:15:13 PM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: MinorityRepublican

And zero anything about border security.


13 posted on 05/28/2023 7:15:51 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects )
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To: Diogenesis

When the GOPe folds on the debt mess again there will be no republican congress in 2024 (possibly senate too) to put things on a trajectory that will improve this country - even if a little while. This whole Trump/DeSantis stuff is irritating to say the least and is a moot point considering once again the GOPe congress is more uniparty than any other faction.

Why people think the GOPe is the answer to anything is beyond me, here in MI we lost both the state house and the state senate for the first time in decades, seems easy to answer as no the rats aren’t taking over, conservatives and right-leaning people just stay home.

The “red wave” never materialized last year and it is most obvious why, it would appear the days of voting for the lesser of evils is over and has been for quite awhile.


14 posted on 05/28/2023 7:27:42 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute. )
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To: Secret Agent Man; Diogenesis; bray; imabadboy99

Yes, and along those same lines it’s amazing how quickly McCarthy and his RINO “negotiators” folded completely on the Hunter Biden investigations. A solid docket of evidence that took years to put together, McCarthy claimed he would pursue the investigations hard and hold hearings as a part of the agreement that got him the Speaker position. Then when he got in he just went silent, even actively suppressing efforts by real conservatives to pursue the investigation. No doubt paid off by Soros and the Chamber of Commerce Big Business traitor coalition to go easy on Biden so that the crooks from Pfizer, Big Tech and Disney can continue to get special favors and rob the heartland blind, right along with the Democrats favorite pigs feeding at the trough. They’re all in league together. Controlled opposition doesn’t even begin to describe him and his back-stabbing.


15 posted on 05/28/2023 7:33:53 PM PDT by Javeth
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To: AnthonySoprano

I will no longer vote Republican. I am done!


16 posted on 05/28/2023 7:33:55 PM PDT by JoJo354 (We need to get to work, Conservatives!)
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To: quantim

I am one of those that is DONE holding my nose and voting R regardless NO MORE!! We keep winning elections and just LOOK at our country there is not a dimes worth of difference in any of the bastards! For decades I have worked the offices, knocked on doors, worked the polls, made THOUSANDS of calls, delivered signs, drove people to the polls and donated what I could!! I wake up to find my nation now has political prisoners and the bastards I have worked so hard for DO NOTHING!! I have watched Trump’s life being destroyed along with several of his advisors for MADE UP charges and the SCUM I have worked so hard for DO NOTHING!! IF Trump is on the ballot I will vote IF NOT I will stay home I just don’t give a damn anymore, I am DONE being a battered wife by the GOPe SCUM!! Five stinking DECADES I have NEVER missed and election, we will NEVER vote our way out of this BECAUSE there is no difference between them NONE!!!


17 posted on 05/28/2023 7:39:13 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Diogenesis

We knew McCarthy cut a deal with the rats to get the House. They could very easily stolen a few more House seats but they cut a deal here is the payoff. McCarthy is the double talking traitor we all feared he would be.


18 posted on 05/28/2023 7:43:22 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: AnthonySoprano

That’s the worst part of this, McCarthy’s “negotiators” were supposed to hold all the cards because Biden and the Dems refuse to even look at the House bill that actually passed. They know they’re the ones resisting a resolution through Constitutional means, and terrified because a default would cost Democrats far more than Republicans in 2024. That’s why they were talking stupid things like minting a 2 trillion dollar coin, but Supreme Court has already said it would block that kind of unilateral thing and that Biden had to sit down and come to an agreement with the Congress, with the starting point being the House bill that passed.

So if McCarthy had been an actual conservative and a leader, he would have held fast and demanded passage of the terms in the House bill as a bare minimum for the debt ceiling raise. He had all the advantages here and Biden and the Demonrats were the ones utterly desperate for a deal to avoid a hit that would bring down the Dems in 2024. Even all the fear-mongering about the debt limit and default itself turned out to be nonsense, just when June 1 was approaching Janet Yellen went out and said “oh just kidding, we have until June 5”. And we know of course there’d be another delay and another for weeks or months if the Dems wanted to draw it out enough, the Treasury can easily pay the obligations for bonds and T bills for many months going ahead. All McCarthy had to do was hold fast and resist the fear-mongering, and eventually since Biden and the Dems are the desperate ones, they’d be forced to accept the House bill as a bare minimum to avoid default, as a starting point for the actual deeper reigning in of government spending we’ve long needed.

But McCarthy couldn’t even do that. He caved completely at the very start of negotiations. He and the rest of the Chamber of Commerce bribed RINO leadership are losers, cowards and traitors all-in one.


19 posted on 05/28/2023 7:53:12 PM PDT by Javeth
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To: Javeth

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Yes, and it just looks like a Conspiracy to never have Joe be a Leader.

There’s always a fat cushion there to help him. They always go out of their way to avoid any mention of his decline.

Republicans to the Rescue - every time!

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20 posted on 05/28/2023 7:59:49 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Statute of Limitations is going to elapse on Hunter Biden )
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