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Ferrari Says No to EVs: Will Stick to Traditional Combustion Engines
Breitbart ^ | 05/15/2023 | Simon Kent

Posted on 05/15/2023 6:23:49 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

Legendary Italian car maker Ferrari has no intention of phasing out combustion engines and going fully electric or hybrid anytime soon, promising Sunday to keep making the eight and 12-cylinder engines it has made its trademark at least until the end of the 2030s.

The chief of the Italian manufacturer told the BBC in an interview it would be “arrogant” to dictate to customers what they can buy while at the same time walking away from the company’s heritage.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: combustion; engines; ferrari; traditional
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Ferrari sold less than 15k autos last year. That’s a bit player, but it is very financially healthy. Reported $5 billion revenue with over $1 billion profit, and a customer base that’s overall probably impervious to economic downturns.


21 posted on 05/15/2023 7:03:56 AM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

"Una Ferrari è una macchina a dodici cilindri."

-- Enzo Anselmo Giuseppe Maria Ferrari

22 posted on 05/15/2023 7:04:40 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: ChicagoConservative27
The headline is extremely misleading.

It [Frerrari] said electric cars and hybrids would make up an increasing proportion of its range by the end of the decade but would not totally take over manufacturing output.
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That is NOT saying "No" to EVs, it is saying yes to traditional internal combustion engines (ICE). Toyota's position is similar.
23 posted on 05/15/2023 7:08:18 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: ChicagoConservative27
"Hey, Enzo."


24 posted on 05/15/2023 7:08:22 AM PDT by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Didn’t know Ferrari was rassis... /s


25 posted on 05/15/2023 7:09:42 AM PDT by bigbob (Q)
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To: cableguymn
"Pretty sure they dropped the v12s :( "

Incorrectamundo. It only takes a 20-second web search to prevent posting misinformation.

It is unlikely Ferrari ever will stop putting dodici cilindri engines in their "halo" cars. The current 812-series uses a 6.5-L V-12 that makes about 800 go-ponies.

26 posted on 05/15/2023 7:16:49 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Dr. Sivana

Ferrari already has a hybrid, the 296. Starts around $350k. Not sure what the point is.

Their new Purosangue ‘SUV’ (with rear suicide doors) seems like a candidate for a hybrid system for the First Wives Club.


27 posted on 05/15/2023 7:18:04 AM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: jjotto

That’s why they pointed out that the ranking is by market cap, not number of units sold. Fifteen thousand is about what I would have expected.


28 posted on 05/15/2023 7:20:08 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (I don’t like to think before I say something...I want to be just as surprised as everyone else…)
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To: Chode; mabarker1

Ping...


29 posted on 05/15/2023 7:24:24 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: butlerweave
Can you see Magnum PI(Tom Selleck) in an EV ,LOL

Can you see him tripping over the charging cable trying to jump into it? ROFL!

Just wait until the Batmobile goes EV instead of that cool jet turbine!

30 posted on 05/15/2023 7:26:23 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Took long enough for at least one company to STAND UP to the Fascists now running Western Society (and the Ukraine War, for that matter).

Now let’s see if anyone is willing to join them. Either way, Ferrari wins, as they won’t have to spend a dime (as in saving at least several billion dollars) trying to develop an EV that their customers don’t want in the first place.

And then in 12 years, or less, let’s see what the Fascists do with Ferrari...do they apply a ‘regime change’ and replace their leadership with Mary Barra, for example (the president of GM who sucks up to Western leaders even more than Olaf Shultz), or perhaps ‘sanctions’ directed at Ferrari?


31 posted on 05/15/2023 7:27:33 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Afterguard
I can never afford a Ferrari, but bravo to Ferrari for taking this stand.

The good news is that a used Porsche can still be purchased somewhat reasonably.

Cost to keep and own might be an issue...

32 posted on 05/15/2023 7:28:46 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Check


33 posted on 05/15/2023 7:30:18 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Ferrari lacks the capital to engage in the EV free for all.

Ferrari lacks the engineering depth and talent to enter the fray.

Ferrari has no choice in the matter


34 posted on 05/15/2023 7:32:43 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

What will Hollywood do when CA bans ICE sales?


35 posted on 05/15/2023 7:33:42 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Henchster
"...Maranello’s legendary 65° V12 engine..."

A V-12 can have perfect primary and secondary order harmonics if it uses 120° crank throws and the bank angle is in even increments of 60°; 0°, 60°, 120°, or 180°. So 65° isn't perfect but Ferrari began experimenting with bank angles in their F1 cars in the 1950s (Ferrari, you might have noticed, doesn't spend money to advertise, they spend money to race and the racing is their only deliberate advertising).

They found the 65° bank angle gave them more flexibility with respect to carburetors and distributors and other stuff that normally lives within the 'V' without wrecking the engine's harmonics. IIRC the 1967 V-6 Dinos were first street cars with a 65° bank angle and the 1992 465 GT was the first 65° V-12. I guess nobody complained so they've stuck with them.

On a similar note, the 512 Berlinetta Boxer didn't have a boxer engine. It was a 180° V with only six crank journals. A boxer would have had 12 journals. Apparently the guys in Ferrari marketing just liked the alliteration of "Berlinetta Boxer."

36 posted on 05/15/2023 7:53:42 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Ferrari is a niche manufacturer and it can ignore what it wants to ignore

However, here's a telling comparison

Tesla Model S PlaidFerrari SF90 Stradale
TypeBattery Electric Vehicle (BEV)Plug-In Hybrid Electric Vehicle (PHEV)
Drivetrain/MotorsAWD / Tri-Motor (AC permanent magnet synchronous motor, carbon-fiber-wrapped rotor, liquid-cooled, with variable frequency drive (1x motor in the front, 2x motors in the rear)All-Wheel Drive / 3 motors (2 front, 1 rear)
EngineNot ApplicableV8 – 90° – turbo – dry sump (mid-engine)
TransmissionFront: Single speed fixed gear, 7.5:1. Enhanced lubrication, Rear: Independent single speed fixed gear, 7.5:1. Dry sump lubrication8-speed, F1 dual-clutch transmission
All-electric range348 miles (560 km) with 21″ wheels / 396 miles (637 km) with 19″ wheels. EPA estimated.15 miles (25 km) using eDrive mode
Acceleration 0-60 mph1.99 sec2.3 sec (2021 model year)
Power1,020 hp986 hp
Torque1,050 lb-ft (Motor Trend)800 Nm (590 lb-ft) @ 6000 rpm
Top speed200 mph (322 km/h)*211 mph (340 km/h)
Torque vectoringYesYes
Launch controlDrag Strip ModeYes, needs 5 secs to activate
1/4-mile time9.23 seconds9.9 sec
Base price$129,990$511,250
Source: Manufacture specs, Car And Driver. *When equipped with the proper wheels and tires (expected availability by fall 2021).

The EV has more power, torque, 0-60, 0-100 than the Ferrari, only lagging by 11 mph in terms of top speed

37 posted on 05/15/2023 7:59:45 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Paal Gulli
"...IIRC the 1967 V-6 Dinos were first street cars with a 65° bank angle and the 1992 465 GT was the first 65° V-12....

RE: the 465, my meaning was it was the first road car with a 65° V, not the first of all V-12s.

38 posted on 05/15/2023 8:00:16 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Ford v Ferrari - 2019 movie
Ford v Ferrari - 2023 Ferrari wins


39 posted on 05/15/2023 8:02:59 AM PDT by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TV)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

IIRC, there was a time not TOO long ago when they said they’d never make an SUV as well.


40 posted on 05/15/2023 8:06:22 AM PDT by FrankRizzo890
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