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Is Vivek Ramaswamy Trump 2.0 ?
Epoch Times ^ | 4.16.2023 | Roger Simon

Posted on 04/16/2023 6:22:49 PM PDT by libh8er

NORTH CONWAY. N.H.—Vivek Ramaswamy isn’t making much of a dent in the polls yet, but judging from the audience reaction at a packed Masonic lodge in Wolfeboro, New Hampshire, it won’t be long.

Everyone was paying close attention. There was no sense in the room of skepticism over why this 37-year-old guy—out of nowhere and standing there with his doctor wife—had the temerity to run for president. They got it. He had done his homework and then some.

Several people during the lengthy question session prefaced theirs with “I voted for Trump but I’m going to vote for you.” Others nodded in agreement.

This was an audience of what might be called the political version of tech’s “early adopters,” the kind of folks that turn out for candidates 18 months before an election when others are watching sports or the latest reality show. They tend to be well-informed and are the ones who tell their friends what to think when the time comes.

A number of such people live in the early caucus and primary states—Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina—where they have seen this before and often have a “show me” attitude. Of these, the New Hampshirites seem to have the strongest libertarian streak endemic to Northern New England.

Some demonstrated this on that Friday night, including a woman who queried the candidate about why we shouldn’t, after all, just get things over with and finally have a national divorce from the liberals and progressives with their stultified views and go our own way, à la John Galt?

This drew an impassioned response from Ramaswamy who, although he understood the woman’s frustration, sees the basis of his candidacy as the opposite of that, kind of a moral crusade for the preservation of our embattled republic and its constitution, something beyond political party. He also sees us as a necessary example of democracy in a world increasingly led by totalitarian China and its allies. The answer could have been mawkish but it was heartfelt and impressive.

After having been with his campaign only a few weeks ago in South Carolina, it was interesting to see Ramaswamy in action. He has already upped his game, speaking with a more polished cadence, less staccato.

As a spontaneous, notes-free speaker about politics, I have rarely seen anyone as fluent (perhaps Bill Clinton, but with less actual content). While some are as, if not more, charismatic, his grasp of the issues and his ability to articulate them fully, which he often does in novel ways, is rather extraordinary.

He doesn’t insult our intelligence, nor engage very heavily in partisan politics, which he almost disdains. As he put it on Twitter: “It’s not R vs. D. It’s not black vs. white. It’s the Great Reset vs. the Great Uprising.”

Whether he or anybody else can defeat this “Reset” that is already all around us and growing every day remains to be seen. Ramaswamy makes no claim he can do it alone. In fact, he said repeatedly at the gathering this could only succeed as a group project for the return to the American values of our Founders. We were all involved in this battle against “woke” corporations who, in collusion with our government, are leading us inevitably to globalist socialism/communism.

That night, he had just returned from delivering an apparently well-received speech in defense of the Second Amendment at an NRA meeting in Indiana, and spoke of it in New Hampshire as well.

An avid tennis player—he was once No. 1 junior in Ohio—who infrequently goes to firing ranges, he doesn’t use sports or hunting as his primary reasons for his staunch support of the amendment. He insists the Second Amendment is the absolutely necessary component to defend the First Amendment, freedom of speech, without which America wouldn’t be America.

He also made a Second Amendment recommendation regarding Taiwan that might at first seem rash, but even on short reflection makes considerable sense. Ramaswamy thinks we should give AR-15s to every citizen of that island nation and teach them how to use them to deter the aggression of the communist Chinese.

Vivek thinks that America is in the midst of an identity crisis, but, as a young civilization in historical terms, has the resilience of a teenager who can work through it. In that sense, his message is optimistic.

The main theme of his campaign has been since its inception the overall necessity of defining America for and to ourselves—who we are and what we want to be—that he feels has been lost in our “woke” culture with its faux religions of climate and transgenderism.

He believes if we solve this basic problem, if we find ourselves again in the tradition of the Founders, the solution to others—the economy, our place in the world, and so forth—will suddenly be a lot simpler and gain a national consensus.

He articulates this in a manner that is similar to Donald Trump’s, but is more precise and detailed, one might even say writerly.

The elephant in the room that night was, of course, Trump, currently battling legal accusations, dubious though they may be, on several fronts. The 45th president tends to take oxygen from rooms even when he is not there.

The question naturally arises where does Ramaswamy fit in this equation? Is he more Trump than Trump? Is he then Trump 2.0, willing, as he says, to take things further and actually emptying the Deep State? He advocates term limits for virtually everyone in Washington.

Or could he end up running with Trump? Anything’s possible.

It’s unlikely that Gov. Ron DeSantis will—there’s already so much bad blood between the two poll leaders.

As for the Republican field in general, former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, despite extensive early soundings, has declined to run. Former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley isn’t generating much interest. Sen. Tim Scott doesn’t appear to have much of a chance, even in his native South Carolina, according to polls. Former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson says he’s running, but no one can explain why. And former Vice President Mike Pence still hasn’t jumped in, with a fair number of people urging him not to for his own sake.

As of this writing, I would have to say it’s between Trump (the heavy favorite), DeSantis, and now, coming up on the outside but still with a long way to go, Ramaswamy.

This could make for an interesting discussion on the Republican side as could, all of a sudden and shockingly, the Democratic side with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. throwing his hat in the ring with a formal announcement next week.

I’ll be along for the ride. Next stop with Vivek: Berlin, New Hampshire. More to come.


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To: Reno89519
And by all reports I've seen, his parents were Indian nationals, not US citizens.
He likely had and may still have Indian citizenship.

The first sentence is true.
The second sentence seems to be conjecture.

81 posted on 04/16/2023 10:41:28 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Fiji Hill
Ramaswamy's Hindu faith doesn't bother me.

It does me; but not near as much as Mitt's added to Christianity does.

82 posted on 04/16/2023 10:43:08 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: b4me

“sounds like Obama selling “hope and change” vague and then stabs those in the back with what is meant by what they said.”

His acolytes knew exactly what he meant.


83 posted on 04/16/2023 10:46:02 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: libh8er

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84 posted on 04/17/2023 2:33:55 AM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: lgjhn23

I’d like to hear what he’d do differently to advance his policies.
Policies Good
Implementation weak


85 posted on 04/17/2023 3:00:45 AM PDT by griswold3 (Truth, Beauty and Goodness ; Quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat)
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To: steve86

Hindus are against abortion except to save the woman’s life.


86 posted on 04/17/2023 4:33:53 AM PDT by elenvee ("...against all enemies, foreign and domestic..")
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To: Fiji Hill

“Some say that to be a natural born citizen, that both of your parents must have been American citizens at the time of your birth. That ship has sailed.”

This is the crux of the matter. The current legally accepted definition of “natural born citizen” is someone who was a citizen at birth. Period.

If you want to add qualifiers to that, we’ll need to pass a law (or amendment) adding them. BTW, I would support that.

In the mean time, we shouldn’t be tying one hand behind our backs by rejecting some of our better candidates because they don’t meet a (currently) non-existent qualification.


87 posted on 04/17/2023 5:56:39 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Ted Cruz said Jan. 6 was terrorism; don't forget that the next time you vote.)
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To: aimhigh
Trump blew it by hiring swamp dwellers to fill too many government positions.

True that. Still thinking like a businessman, he hired well qualified individuals. But he neglected to vet them for political leanings opposed to his agenda.

88 posted on 04/17/2023 9:08:34 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: HollyB
I like him, regardless. He’s not a globalist, actually he’s exactly the opposite.

What is WEF, if not hard-line globalist?

89 posted on 04/17/2023 9:14:49 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: libh8er

MO ONE IS TRUMP 2.0. NOT NOW-—NOT EVER

This other ‘person’ is also NOT NBC, as I understand.

HE CANNOT LEGALLY BE PRESIDENT


90 posted on 04/17/2023 11:19:25 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: libh8er

NO ONE IS TRUMP 2.0. NOT NOW-—NOT EVER

This other ‘person’ is also NOT NBC, as I understand.

HE CANNOT LEGALLY BE PRESIDENT


91 posted on 04/17/2023 11:19:38 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: libh8er

He is “OUT OF NOWHERE” & I AM SURE HE IS NOT NBC.

OBAMA ‘came out of NOWHERE’ & look what that cost us.

BUT NOW we know he came out of Indonesia after being born in Kenya.


92 posted on 04/17/2023 11:21:19 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: elenvee

Hinduism is such a multi-faceted, heterogenous collection of belief systems that one can’t possibly say “Hindus this or that”. There would have to be hundreds of variations. In my experience, having had an Indian (Christian) wife who had many Hindu friends and the subject did come up, “pro-life” is not a common position among Hindus we came into contact with.


93 posted on 04/17/2023 11:25:09 AM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: ridesthemiles

Kamala is the current VP. So that ship has sailed.


94 posted on 04/17/2023 12:20:36 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert ( )
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To: C210N

He had nothing to do with being named a Young Global Leader.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmSRmVe9OIA


95 posted on 04/17/2023 1:52:47 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: libh8er

Interesting. Thanks for posting that link.

I’ll munch on what he said there, however, that video is not proof of him not being WEF.


96 posted on 04/17/2023 2:22:01 PM PDT by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: x

. . . and Steve Forbes the election cycle before that. Plus Forbes had the advantage of money for self-promotion.


97 posted on 04/20/2023 6:23:00 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: b4me; C210N
Apparently he is NOT.
98 posted on 04/20/2023 1:34:11 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Donald Trump is a setting sun. Ron DeSantis is a rising star.)
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To: C210N

No, he wasn’t. They put him on there without his permission. Besides, Trump was a leftist for decades. If the guy is even 1/4 as good as he sounds, he’d be hugely conservative.


99 posted on 04/20/2023 1:56:55 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: libh8er

Ramaswamy is going to appeal to intellectual conservatives - the erudite and academic types - even the nerdy futurists and philosophers - but this is a far narrower base than the one President Trump appeals to.

Don’t get me wrong, the philosophical and academic side of conservatism is crucial in this war of ideas, but President Trump’s knack for using common sense and pragmatism to reach a hundred million voters is something Ramaswamy does not share.

I have listened to him at length and I must admit I was impressed. I just know a heck of a lot of good solid Trump supporters whose eyes would glaze over after a couple minutes.

Not that Trump supporters are too dumb to follow him - that’s not what I’m saying at all. We Trump supporters are smart - but many of us are well past philosophical musings and just want a fierce fighter.


100 posted on 04/22/2023 10:41:14 AM PDT by enumerated ( )
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