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Russia Collapses
KyivPost.com ^ | Saturday March 18, 2023 | Diane Francis

Posted on 03/18/2023 3:57:13 AM PDT by canuck_conservative

What’s known is that $250 billion in capital has left, equivalent to 14 percent of its GDP. One expert guesstimates that Russia’s economy has shrunk from the size of Italy’s to Chile’s in the past year — you wouldn’t know this based on bogus figures fed to the media by Moscow. Economist Janis Kluge of the German Institute for International and Security Affairs (SWP) calculates that Western sanctions alone have also “basically shrunk Russia’s economy by 10 percent”, bigger than what happened in the 2009 financial crisis.

What is also known is that immediately after the invasion of Ukraine, an estimated 3.8 million Russians left, according to official figures published mid-year by Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB). In early 2022, there were three waves of departures, including middle class families, political opponents, draft dodgers, millionaires, and IT or other skilled workers... But even if most of these came back, the country suffered another exodus in the fall of an estimated one million after Putin’s announced military conscription. That scale of both mass migrations has also blown a hole in its economy.

.... In 2022, Russia’s military cost US$300 million a day and Moscow raked in US$800 million a day from energy exports. Since the caps began, revenues have fallen to US$200 million a day and head lower....

(Excerpt) Read more at kyivpost.com ...


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To: canuck_conservative; Robert DeLong
you're a paranoid kook

Really? That’s the best you can do?

If this:
”…they will become enslaved to the New World Order, because Zelenskyy is doing this at the behest the globalists, because it is enriching himself personally.”
…isn’t the case, then please tell us what is.

You’re not seriously thinking that Zelensky is some innocent victim and that he’s not involved in any scams or following others’ directives? Please. The guy is a grifter, a crook, through and through.

101 posted on 03/18/2023 10:44:53 AM PDT by Allegra
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To: canuck_conservative

—> you’re a paranoid kook

If you were from Canada, you could look out the window and see the great reset coming…

… but I think you’re a paid new world order employee and not in Canada.


102 posted on 03/18/2023 12:02:55 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: canuck_conservative
you're a paranoid kook

No, I am a well-informed person, while you are nothing more than a reactionary person who believes that you are on the side of good, when in reality you are siding with pure evil.

The same people that want to disfigure people with the mental illness of gender dysphoria.

Sexualize children, and perform sexual acts with children.

Those who scheme to depopulate the planet numbering in the billions of humans, other than themselves or their families, of course. Because those people do not deserve the life the Lord gave them.

The same people who view themselves as Gods amongst men. You know the megalomaniacs who think their wealth makes them superior, and no longer mere human beings.

That believe they have the right to steal elections.

That believe they have the right to bring down other nations, and other leaders, because those leaders do not kowtow to them.

Project upon others, both leaders & citizens, what they actually do. Sometimes they actually push their opponents into doing what is wrong, that they wanted them to do, so that they can claim the high road and blame their opposition. Such as J6, as well as, Putin's invasion.

Because evil operates on that level as well.

You buy right into all of that also. Because you probably also condemn others for things you yourself have done, and think it's different when you do it, because that person deserved what was done to them.

If you were provoked to do it, because you were not getting any resolution going through the available channels to get relief, then you just may have been justified.

It's a fact that Zelenskyy has enacted the most of the WEF Great Reset dictates. More than any other nation has.

You wouldn't know these things, because you are just unwilling to seek out the information to come to an informed decision. Is it just laziness that makes you let others do the thinking for you?

You probably even believe that the "vaccines" are not only safe, but that they are also very effective. Is that the case, or have you come to realize all those claims were lies they were feeding you, and that furthermore, they knew they were lying to you?

Gee, if they knowingly lied to you about that, why wouldn't they lie to you about Ukraine vs. Russia?

Your calling me a paranoid kook, doesn't even resonate with me, and one who walks with the Lord is a person who harbors no fear. Without fear, paranoia is impossible. If you can prove I'm a kook, then by any means, do so.

I offer the following links to elevate your knowledge, though I know someone like yourself will never read anything that contradicts with their fast-held beliefs, and makes one question if they are really correct.

Are you a recently converted liberal who thinks this conversion has made him a conservative? I ask because you give me the impression of being a neo-con, who became conservatives because they found an audience who was willing to listen to them.

If you do read them, and you still feel no differently, well then, shame on you.

Both sides lie, but one side is lying far more than the other side.

My only goal is to stop the hostilities before they expand further. I take no sides, because both sides are leading to something none of us should want.

If we really are the better side, than we need to step forward and come together to end the hostilities before they become too hot to deal with.

Concessions should have to made by both sides.

It should have never been allowed it to get to this in the first place. But the U.S. & N.A.T.O. played a role in getting us here, because they itched for the proxy war.

To me that is evil, and if you can't see that, then you too are evil.

Ukraine Adopts WEF Proposals

Ukrainian President Zelenskyy is tied to Klaus Schwab, Justin Trudeau, and other global elites

Why Zelensky’s Ukraine Is Becoming Increasingly Autocratic

I could go on & on about this clown you believe to be a messiah.

103 posted on 03/18/2023 1:12:08 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: DannyTN

I thought the new spelling was “Rubble”.

- - - - - - -

That’s what Biden predicted. The ruble will turn to rubble.


104 posted on 03/18/2023 5:36:49 PM PDT by TTFX
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To: canuck_conservative
Your Canadian Gestapo In Action

Or is this just the paranoia of a kook?

105 posted on 03/18/2023 7:47:27 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: familyop

At this rate, we’ll soon run out of plowshares.


106 posted on 03/19/2023 5:26:37 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Larry Lucido

I wonder if the Ukes could use this?

107 posted on 03/19/2023 5:28:44 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Larry Lucido

Ooops!

Wrong Barney!


January 6th was a walk in the park.

108 posted on 03/19/2023 5:30:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: All

This is Vlad...

...All is Well..

We are in mopping up operations now.
This will be over very quickly. This is not an endless war.


109 posted on 03/19/2023 8:38:44 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Reagan Conservative: Economic Freedom, Peace through Strength, American Values- De Oppresso Liber)
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To: McGruff

Because it’s against the law


110 posted on 03/19/2023 8:48:20 AM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: Does so

To (for the umpteenth time) quote my Dad’s old Ukrainian friend who fled to the US after the USSR retook Ukraine:

“The Nazis (Germany) were awful. The Russians were worse.”


111 posted on 03/19/2023 4:28:31 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Robert DeLong; canuck_conservative
I think Canada should be providing a lot more than they currently are. Give until it hurts man, like you demand we Americans do.

A small point: US aid (sent or committed to send*) to Ukraine was as of 1/15/2023 approx. 0.4% of estimated US GDP for 2022.

Canadian aid (sent or committed to send*) to Ukraine was as of 1/15/2023 approx. 0.3% of estimated US GDP for 2022.

https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/

*Most recent confirmed figures. Note that quite a bit of both countries' aid extends well into 2023, so on a per year basis those percentages appear high. OTOH, further aid commitments made after Jan. 15 have and very likely will be made, which will bring the "true" number back up. Since I don't have a crystal ball, Canada at about 75% as much aid to Ukraine as the US has tossed in, by GDP, is IMO a reasonable assessment.

On the surface, that is.

A considerably greater portion of the US aid is weapons, than is Canada's, largely because it is the US that has huge stores of weapons to send, old and new. However, the older weapons are typically over-valued. Just exactly how and how much one would "depreciate" or devalue such assets is a topic of sometimes very complex and sometimes very "hot" contention. However, even with very modest devaluing figured in (not even to mention that the possibility of an eventual dustup with Russia figured into the quantities of these weapons acquired by the US military in the 1st place), then difference between the Canadian contribution by GDP, and the US contribution by GDP, of aid to Ukraine, narrows. Canada doing 85% to 90% as much as the US has, by GDP, is a reasonable figure.

112 posted on 03/19/2023 6:48:27 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Robert DeLong; canuck_conservative

Hot link to that data:

https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/


113 posted on 03/19/2023 6:53:12 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Paul R.
Canadian aid (sent or committed to send*) to Ukraine was as of 1/15/2023 approx. 0.3% of estimated US GDP for 2022.

Wrong data! Canadian aid (sent or committed to send*) to Ukraine was as of 1/15/2023 approx. (what %?) of estimated CANADIAN GDP for 2022.

114 posted on 03/19/2023 8:32:45 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Paul R.; canuck_conservative
Yes, and on top of that we have paid the majority of the bills for N.A.T.O., the U.N., WHO, since their creation. We have foolishly involved ourselves around the globe in long protracted wars, that never benefited a single soul. In fact, they have only destroyed many lives. They do so because they are invested in the military-industrial complex, as well as, getting kickbacks from the contractors doing the work.

We also give billions to many foreign nations in financial aid, both friend & foe.

To add insult to injury, we pay 100s of billions per year for illegal invaders of this nation. Enriching special interest groups, while the citizens of this nation get fleeced even more.

In the meantime, repairs that are badly needed in our crumbling nation don't get done.

It's unsustainable, and the BRICS nations are going to replace the dollar as the world's reserve currency. When that happens, it will make these back failures look like child play for the entire world, except for perhaps the BRICS nations. Though I suspect many of them will not fair well either.

We have been following the perfect blueprint to destroy our nation. No foreign nation had to even lift a finger or invade kinetically. All they had to do was sit back and smile as our leaders destroyed it for them.

115 posted on 03/19/2023 9:24:05 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

When Ukraine embraced the Wehrmacht, they were bound to borrow their badges.


116 posted on 03/19/2023 9:58:38 PM PDT by Does so ("Who is Ray Epps?"...................should be overstamped on every piece of currency)
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To: Robert DeLong

I would agree with some of that, esp. when it comes to illegal immigration. But, so much of what you say is based on such shallow analysis...

Take the reserve currency issue. At least 80% of the world’s GDP is the US, the EU, and allies such as Japan, the UK, etc. To dethrone the dollar as the world’s reserve currency, you’ll have to break up that block, and in particular the US - EU alliance.

With nits like Biden (or Obama) in charge, yes, eventually we’ll get there. But barring something like Ebola with COVID-like infectiousness, or a severe fracturing of NATO and subsequent truly major war in Europe, or maybe a medium-large asteroid strike (say, .2 mi. diameter, popping Europe, maybe blast center = SW Germany) — the “system” has enough accumulated wealth and momentum to not fall apart for some time.

Granted that negative momentum IS well established too, and growing, so a breakup in 40-60 years would not surprise me. But BRICS could crack up just as soon or sooner.


117 posted on 03/20/2023 2:24:06 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Elsie

Correction to my post, I typed “US” when I meant “Canada’s”. So, that should read:

Canadian aid (sent or committed to send*) to Ukraine was as of 1/15/2023 approx. 0.3% of Canada’s estimated GDP for 2022.


118 posted on 03/20/2023 2:30:24 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Elsie
A slightly different comparison: Recalculated on a GDP per capita basis, Canada has sent equal or a little more aid per Canadian resident, than the US has sent per US resident.
119 posted on 03/20/2023 2:43:49 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Paul R.

Thanks!

This makes more sense.


120 posted on 03/20/2023 4:41:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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