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‘A Bankrupt Concept of Math’: Some Educators Argue Calculus Should Be Dethroned
The 74 via Yahoo ^ | March 13, 2023 | Jo Napolitano

Posted on 03/13/2023 1:30:37 PM PDT by grundle

Successful completion of high school calculus has long been an unofficial must-have for those seeking admission to the nation’s top colleges: The course has, for decades, served as a signal to admissions officers that a student’s coursework has been robust.

But some in education say it’s time to reconsider this de facto requirement: Many schools — particularly those serving large numbers of Black, Hispanic or low-income students — don’t offer the course. And even when they do, it’s of dubious value, they say.

“High school calculus is a complete waste of time and a form of torture,” said Alan Garfinkel, professor of integrative biology and physiology and medicine at UCLA. “The view … that math is a bunch of symbolic expressions, and you bang on them with tricks to get other symbolic expressions, is a bankrupt concept of math, dating from the 19th century.”

The course, as it’s often taught at the high school level, is inaccessible and often perceived as irrelevant to students’ interests, critics say. Just 16% of high school graduates earned credit for calculus in 2019, according to data culled by the National Assessment of Educational Progress, a statistic no doubt shaped by its unavailability.

Only 52% of schools with high student of color enrollment offered the course in 2017-18 compared to 76% of schools with low student of color enrollment, according to a 2021 report from the Learning Policy Institute.

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1 posted on 03/13/2023 1:30:37 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

All you need is ganas.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A2yqIm58ULo


2 posted on 03/13/2023 1:37:24 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: grundle
“High school calculus is a complete waste of time and a form of torture,” said Alan Garfinkel

That's funny!

I seem to recall using it quite extensively in my profession.

3 posted on 03/13/2023 1:38:27 PM PDT by seowulf (Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos...Will Durant)
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To: grundle

We drove to the local junior college at 6:30a.m. for college Calculus, and then we drove to high school at 7:30. 1965-66.


4 posted on 03/13/2023 1:40:16 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (“And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.” Acts 2:47 -- It's still true!)
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To: grundle

What an idiotic idea!

When my kids complained about their math homework, with the typical, “I’m never gonna use this in real life,” excuse, I countered with this.

Higher mathematics teaches you to think abstractly. It develops synaptic connections and pathways in your mind that will give you an advantage in problem solving, textual comprehension, cognition, and thinking speed in adulthood.

The only reason I can imagine to minimize, dismiss, or eliminate mathematics is that more and more teachers have degrees in crap like Gender Studies than in classical liberal arts: mathematics, surveys of history, the sciences, and literature, ethics, rhetoric, logic, Greek, Latin, and at least one other language.


5 posted on 03/13/2023 1:40:40 PM PDT by Westbrook (The Democrats are wizards at two things: Finding votes and losing evidence.)
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To: grundle
Give it time.

Next will be algebra.

Then multiplication and division.

Then reading and writing.

6 posted on 03/13/2023 1:41:02 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: seowulf

All professions must be accessible to the stupid.

Civilizational suicide.


7 posted on 03/13/2023 1:41:57 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: grundle
“High school calculus is a complete waste of time and a form of torture,” said Alan Garfinkel

I always wondered why he chose singing ...
8 posted on 03/13/2023 1:45:00 PM PDT by bankwalker (Repeal the 19th ...)
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To: seowulf

Engineers don’t need calculus. That’s what computers are for. /S


9 posted on 03/13/2023 1:45:37 PM PDT by D Rider ( )
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To: Westbrook

I told my kids it was weightlifting for the brain ...


10 posted on 03/13/2023 1:46:12 PM PDT by bankwalker (Repeal the 19th ...)
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To: buwaya

It is the ability to think abstractly and solve problems symbolically that sets us apart from apes. Such ideas have given us freedom from disease, complex construction, and the ability to fly. Anyone who doesn’t appreciate that is a moron.

I’ll leave it at that.


11 posted on 03/13/2023 1:47:05 PM PDT by DarrellZero
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To: grundle

Don’t need calculus to carjack-—rob-—& other activities.


12 posted on 03/13/2023 1:48:09 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: grundle

And when POCs don’t get jobs as engineers they can blame racism.


13 posted on 03/13/2023 1:48:21 PM PDT by I want the USA back (News media and democrats are pond scum. My pronouns: Haha, heehee, hoho, hoo hoo. )
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To: grundle

No calculus, no modern society. It is that simple.


14 posted on 03/13/2023 1:48:25 PM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: grundle

It is a selector. If you don’t have the smarts to pass calculus, you will not do will in most technical or analytical majors in a rigorous school (then again, these days, how many schools are still rigorous?).


15 posted on 03/13/2023 1:50:51 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (We live in a time where intelligent people are being silenced so stupid people won’t be offended)
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[Calculus is] "a bankrupt concept of math, dating from the 19th century"... so says the "professor of integrative biology and physiology". Call it a hunch, but I'd wager that higher math kicked this guys arse in school. I know it kicked mine.

In fact, Calc is a lot older than that. And I'm sure there's many a electrical, mechanical, aerospace and many other engineers who would dispute such a silly claim of it being "bankrupt", whatever that is even supposed to mean. Someone has to make the engines run and the rockets keep from exploding on the pad. Obviously, it's isn't this biology professor.

16 posted on 03/13/2023 1:52:01 PM PDT by Joe Brower ("Might we not live in a nobler dream than this?" -- John Ruskin)
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To: grundle

Right. Let’s use African math instead.


17 posted on 03/13/2023 1:52:50 PM PDT by Orosius (A)
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To: grundle
Biden: If you don't hate math you, you're, well, you know the rest.


18 posted on 03/13/2023 1:52:52 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: grundle
Different races have different abilities. For example some races are good at basketball and trash talk.

19 posted on 03/13/2023 1:55:02 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: Westbrook

‘It develops synaptic connections and pathways in your mind that will give you an advantage in problem solving, textual comprehension, cognition, and thinking speed in adulthood.’

yes, it may do all of that for a select few; it also has caught thousands of otherwise bright students in a vortex of failure, rendering any thought of academic excellence, well academic...

I failed miserably at algebra, and was thus deemed dim and shunted into the dustbin of low profile college application; my friends, in my estimation no smarter than I, passed the course and were used by my parents to shame and humiliate me...and as far as fostering abstract thought, coursework in logic and rhetoric would serve far better than distant mathmatical concepts...


20 posted on 03/13/2023 1:55:08 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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