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Cost of Bakhmut ‘meat grinder’ battle on Russian army revealed
The Telegraph ^ | 7 March 2023 | Roland Oliphant

Posted on 03/10/2023 9:11:33 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

Russia has lost an estimated five men for every Ukrainian soldier its forces have killed in the battle for Bakhmut, according to a Nato official.

Speaking to CNN on condition of anonymity, the official said that Nato intelligence showed that Russia’s losses in the assault on the eastern salt-mining town far outweighed Ukraine’s.

The official also said, however, that Ukraine’s losses defending the city were significant.

Russia’s use of costly wave attacks have prompted comparisons to the First World War and the commander of the mercenary forces leading the assault has described the battle as a “meat grinder” for Russian troops.

Russia has been assaulting Bakhut since August, in what has become the longest and costliest battle of the war.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Russia
KEYWORDS: 100000deadrussians; bakhmut; bobthenatoofficial; boggeddown; donbasquagmire; failedinvasion; groundukiemeat; militarygenius; norsebadenov; relentlessneocontard; rolandoliphant; thechummybot; theusualdumbspects; whatakrok
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To: buwaya

So, by your logic, fewer embedded video teams in Iraq and Afhan means more video coming out of a war, that shows combat? But then you say very little combat was shown?? Which is it? No, contrary to what you are saying, the best engagement footage I have seen out of thise two theaters was that made by fps perspective.

I’m not sure every Uke fighter with a ‘go-pro’ on his helmet has to go thru Uke officials to upload it to the world.

If the Ukes REALLY had video of all these dead Russians up close and personal, it would be in their best interest to release it and show it to show they are winning and get more $$ for pedo Z. FPS video is ALOT harder to fake that CGI produced drone ‘video’. Drone video aint worth much in my book.


61 posted on 03/11/2023 3:52:53 AM PST by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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To: Bulwyf
That ratio would not be too out of line with what is normal between attacking forces going against well entrenched defenders. I believe the usual expectation is 3 to 1. Throw in the demonstrable incompetence of today's Russian military leadership and the use of relatively unprepared conscripts. Five to one is possible.

Still, from the Russian perspective they have plenty more meat to throw in the grinder. So, no worries. Unless you're the meat.

62 posted on 03/11/2023 4:00:00 AM PST by katana
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To: unclebankster

Exactly. With relatively inexpensive fps mounted cameras, you’d think there would be a sheite ton of guys out there all completing to upload the best video of all the dead and “blowed up” Russian stuff, in the super mass quantities Pedo Z and his handlers want us to believe. Yet, almost nothin.

I mean, COMMON GUYS. REALLY???


63 posted on 03/11/2023 4:00:02 AM PST by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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To: griffin

They just need to remember to remove their Geo tags from the video feed.


64 posted on 03/11/2023 4:08:18 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: House Atreides
"Gullible dumbasses do. We’ve got a handful of those here..small in numbers but loud of mouth."

Psychiatrists have a name for this. It's called - projection.

65 posted on 03/11/2023 4:08:46 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Did Norfolk Southern ESG and Equity policies cause the train derailment in East Palestine?)
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To: familyop

LOL! at the end of the ‘report’...

“The data is being confirmed”

😂 STOP......you’re killin me!😂


66 posted on 03/11/2023 4:08:58 AM PST by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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To: House Atreides

Ya, even before this war, I’ve noticed that guy was a troll.


67 posted on 03/11/2023 4:13:42 AM PST by Bulwyf (Why? )
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To: hardspunned

I heard they were issued Jack knives, and a stick and they have to whittle it to a point.


68 posted on 03/11/2023 4:14:26 AM PST by Bulwyf (Why? )
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To: buwaya

So have you.


69 posted on 03/11/2023 4:17:06 AM PST by dforest (All of America has derailed.)
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To: dforest

So have I what?


70 posted on 03/11/2023 4:21:32 AM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: higgmeister

As an Albertan, I will say that fool doesn’t represent us. Also, you shouldn’t engage small children. They have no clue what they talk about and simply speak to hear themselves and look important.


71 posted on 03/11/2023 4:21:43 AM PST by Bulwyf (Why? )
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To: MinorityRepublican

My first thought was how the US would inflate numbers during the Vietnam war. If anyone believes ANYRHING the government says, they are naive or a fool.


72 posted on 03/11/2023 4:23:59 AM PST by GrumpyOldGuy
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To: griffin

Don’t forget the shark of Kyiv. He singlehandedly took out 6 Russian subs with a knife in his teeth.


73 posted on 03/11/2023 4:24:00 AM PST by Bulwyf (Why? )
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To: Bulwyf

“Speaking to CNN on a condition of anonymity”?!
👌🏾


74 posted on 03/11/2023 4:50:54 AM PST by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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To: Rdct29

Whoever is supporting either side is a twit.
Close our border.


75 posted on 03/11/2023 4:54:45 AM PST by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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To: BrexitBen

MacGregor........ he’s the guy that never made General isn’t he?


76 posted on 03/11/2023 4:55:49 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: familyop

Canada is part of our nuclear readiness?
Thats very scary to think about.


77 posted on 03/11/2023 4:59:41 AM PST by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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To: House Atreides; Bulwyf; canuck_conservative
Bulwyf: "People actually believe this stuff?”

*******************************

House Atreides: "Gullible dumbasses do.
We’ve got a handful of those here..small in numbers but loud of mouth."

But there are no louder mouths here than the ones spewing pro-Russian propaganda, and you all do seem to outnumber Ukraine defenders by at least two to one.

The truth here is as old as history -- if defenders stand their ground in entrenched positions, they can inflict multiple casualties on attackers for every one the defenders suffer.
That's one reason it was traditionally calculated that attacking armies must outnumber defenders by at least three-to-one to insure victory.

Russians have been attacking Bakhmut since August, seven months, so obviously, Ukrainians are dug in and fighting back.
In recent months we've seen multiple reports of Russian WWI-style "human wave" tactics, so there's no reason to doubt it's happening.

Indeed, those human wave style attacks are a pretty good explanation for why Russia emptied out its prisons to man the front lines -- the loss of a former prisoner in combat is a net gain for the Russian government.

78 posted on 03/11/2023 5:08:37 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Putin is a callous guy.


79 posted on 03/11/2023 5:12:32 AM PST by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: BrexitBen

What’s McGregor’s claim to fame?


80 posted on 03/11/2023 5:13:16 AM PST by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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