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UK training Ukrainians to fight in 'Western way' with less ammunition - minister
REUTERS ^ | February 18, 2023 | REUTERS

Posted on 02/19/2023 5:42:28 AM PST by hcmama

- Britain is training Ukrainian soldiers to fight in a more "Western way" and use less ammunition than the traditional Soviet way of fighting, British Defence Secretary Ben Wallace said on Wednesday.

Britain along with other Western allies has been training Ukrainian soldiers and providing weapons and ammunition to support Kyiv in its battle with Russia.

"Ukraine uses huge amounts of ammunition to defend itself, partly that's why we're training them to fight in a Western way," Wallace told Times Radio.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: ukraine
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1 posted on 02/19/2023 5:42:28 AM PST by hcmama
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To: hcmama

Riiiiight.


2 posted on 02/19/2023 5:44:04 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: hcmama

Translated that means using NATO doctrine

Any way, that’s what The Combat Veteran repeatedly says on his excellent You Tube pieces


3 posted on 02/19/2023 5:48:49 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: hcmama

This must be the reason we lost so many family members and had so many return with no legs, arms, and PTSD in neocon wars.

Take heart Ukes. When that Russian artillery is showering you as you run into the line of fire ordered by big Z to keep the grift going, know that your death stayed within the ammo budget plan. lol


4 posted on 02/19/2023 5:55:39 AM PST by dforest (All of America has derailed.)
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To: bert

My question is what has NATO been teaching Ukraine since 2014 when NATO started training and arming their military


5 posted on 02/19/2023 5:56:43 AM PST by srmanuel
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To: hcmama
It becomes a laboratory.

We think that the NATO doctrine works well against the Soviet doctrine but we don't really know. We have a lot of experience with Arab armies in the desert and with jungle fighting. But armored combat in Europe? Haven't really done that in 80 years or so. A lot has change din terms of armor, artillery and close air support.

Now we can test some theories on real battlefields and the worst thing that happens is some Ukrainians get killed.

6 posted on 02/19/2023 5:56:48 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (“You want it one way, but it’s the other way”)
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To: hcmama
This guys were trained in the UK.


7 posted on 02/19/2023 5:58:30 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: ClearCase_guy

You mean kind of the same as mass testing on humans with the clot shots. Who cares some sheeple end up taking a dirt nap?

Like that?


8 posted on 02/19/2023 5:59:14 AM PST by dforest (All of America has derailed.)
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To: srmanuel

That would be my question


9 posted on 02/19/2023 6:01:28 AM PST by hcmama
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https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/02/putin-has-a-problem-his-tanks-are-getting-slaughtered-in-ukraine/

Half of Russian Main Battle Tanks destroyed.

NATO would make mincemeat of Russian military. They can’t even take Ukraine.


10 posted on 02/19/2023 6:02:54 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Reagan Conservative: Economic Freedom, Peace through Strength, American Values- De Oppresso Liber)
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To: hcmama

So running out of ammo and munitions is a win-win? What a crap screed of propaganda. The Union won over the Confederacy by the mass production of bullets and literally burying the Confederates under a hail of lead. The author is a moron.


11 posted on 02/19/2023 6:05:59 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (The Ukraine is dead, the head just doesn't know it yet.)
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To: srmanuel
"My question is what has NATO been teaching Ukraine since 2014 when NATO started training and arming their military?"

Transgender theory?

12 posted on 02/19/2023 6:07:26 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (The Ukraine is dead, the head just doesn't know it yet.)
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To: srmanuel; ClearCase_guy

well whatever NATO has been teaching the Ukrainians, it must have been effective ...

Ukraine was able to repel Russia’s attempted encirclement of Kiev last spring (even before they got Western weapons), and they’re still able to keep Russia in check, despite getting waves of cannon-fodder troops hurled at them

plus Ukraine has been very disciplined, you see that with their public communications where very little info gets out ... that’s smart, that way Russia doesn’t know what’s happening to them and can’t take counter-measures


13 posted on 02/19/2023 6:11:13 AM PST by canuck_conservative (start of Year Two - in just 5 days!!)
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To: bert

They should fix bayonets, go over the top and charge into Russian lines without ammunition with swastikas flying. DeNazification has additional room to go.


14 posted on 02/19/2023 6:13:01 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: hcmama

Are they limited to just 7 rounds per magazine? Did our govenrment give the Ukrainian citizens fully automatic or select fire “weapons of war”?


15 posted on 02/19/2023 6:13:44 AM PST by Bob434
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The western way ? Are they training them to use the proper pronouns ?


16 posted on 02/19/2023 6:13:49 AM PST by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: wildcard_redneck

Lol! They have been training mentslly ill men who dress like women how to deal with wild mood swings and “their monthlies” while on the battlefield.


17 posted on 02/19/2023 6:15:28 AM PST by Bob434
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To: srmanuel

That is an excellent question. So far, the various weapons donated by various NATO nations have gone seemingly into very quick service.

amplifying specifics of your question...... are Ukrainians already trained up on the various NATO donated tanks?


18 posted on 02/19/2023 6:17:21 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: Bob434
Training Ukrainians has been rough at best right from th start - according to the instructors it's ben mor than challenging. The apptitude isn't there nor understanding that it's more than putting a rifle in your hands and firing. Which is why they go thru enormous amounts of ammunition....they just fire.
19 posted on 02/19/2023 6:20:55 AM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: JonPreston

You are so 19th century. So backward. So just out of it.

They are not fixing bayonets but rather fixing GPS co ordinates and dropping grenades directly into tank hatches and trenches.

There is drone to hand combat that is decimating the Russians. Russians at war in Ukraine are being wiped out and never having seen a Ukranian warrior.


20 posted on 02/19/2023 6:21:22 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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