Posted on 02/09/2023 4:06:27 PM PST by thegagline
That is true at the start of every war. The Russians had the same problem. Their original six-axis combined arms attack was an almost total failure due to logistics incompetence, communications incompetence and an underestimate of the Ukraine resistance.
War is a harsh instructor. Bad commanders get fired or killed. The Russians have replaced much of their command staff as a result. They are learning.
Many bad commanders in the Ukraine army have been replaced or killed too. Are they learning (as an organization)? I don't know.
The Ukraine political authorities insisted early on a "hold fast" strategy, which worked out very poorly in Mariupol. It will work equally poorly in Bakhmut. They do not have enough reserves to repeat that kind of mistake. They must get smarter fast.
No these people were really really incompetent cowards, interested only in how much money they could steal - it was a small Soviet Army.
Don’t make excuses for idiots.
Not really an excuse.
The point was that command staffs must be ruthlessly purged of incompetents during early phases of every war. It always happens to every winning army in every war and should be expected. Armies that fail to do that always lose wars.
War outcomes are uncertain. You need to do everything possible to improve the odds.
And yet dozens of countries operate F-16s.
Every aircraft has specific maintenance requirements, but the same sorts of things have to be done for all of them. If you have a large pool of people trained to do this for one set of aircraft it is not a stretch to train them for another.
go away pootie troll and do not message me again.
Sure.
I saw it with my own two eyes. American trainers supposed to be training. American trainers doing all the work.
If a Ukrainian is smart enough to fix one of those planes then I’m betting he/she is going to get recruited to fly one of those things.
Not everyone in the world receives an education.
Dare I say, many of the smart ones are already living in Western Europe.
But they do have the Ghost of Kiev. So they got that going for them
I don’t know which troglodytes you were dealing with - Arabs?
But F-16s have been in service the world over for decades, used by what it seems to be unlikely characters, like the Pakistanis. Who don’t have a US contractor presence BTW.
Ukrainians are the same racial stock as the Russians, who seem to deal with advanced aerospace maintenance well enough. A lot of the Soviet aerospace industry was in Ukraine pre-1991. Ukraine was a “high tech” part of the Soviet Union.
It’s always funny to read the stuff from the Pro-Zelensky-Ukraine-Happy About The Corruption & Money Laundering, Installed by Nuland & the State Dept Ukrainian Government that violated two treaties and Committed Attrocities against Russians Living In Ukraine.
Everything you and your ilk say is pure speculation based on what you want to happen with zero proof.
You have zero knowledge of the average Ukrainian citizen or member of their armed forces. A force which has been decimated, that is now co scripting teenagers and men in their 60s.
As for the Pakistanis, sadly, they are considered an ally. And they don’t get the fancy version of anything. They get the export versions.
The best information is that which is revealed by events. The Ukrainians have a remarkably good track record vs Russia over the past year.
Russia in theory should have a massive overmatch vs Ukraine on all fronts, from tech to materiel to the institutional military to just plain cash. But Ukraine has managed not only to resist them but to roll them back.
That outcome should inform us of many things.
As for the Pakis, one thing they did get was the look-down-shoot down capability, plus AMRAAMs. That is exactly the most likely use for Ukrainian F16’s, as a supplement to the Ukrainian S300 SAM systems, on which so much depends. The same F16 models are being retired right now by Norway, Denmark and the Netherlands, being replaced by F35’s. Those are the most likely source of F16’s for Ukraine.
The Pakis currently have some (18) of the latest F-16s, the block 50/52 plus. Definitely not a “monkey model”.
Advice - check before writing.
Do they have the same avionics and radar packages that our pilots are flying?
The Ukrainians have a remarkably good track record vs Russia over the past year.
Except for the ones that had to runaway because they have no ammunition. Except for the 16 and 60 yr olds being conscripted to fight.
They have what you call a good track record, only because they’re being propped by the US and NATO….and the only people suffering and dying are the Ukrainians while you’re sitting in the comfort of your home in the USA, cheerleading more death and destruction.
Apparently, yes. Some better. Not all USAF F-16s are of those blocks IIRC.
Its a bit like the F35 deployment. A lot of countries are getting theirs before the USAF/ANG is fully upgraded.
Especially with what passes for staff work in the Russian Army. Even if Putin has rations, ammo, and fuel, for 300,000-500,000 men, plus enough transportation to get it where it needs to be, there is no reason to believe the staff officers have miracled up the competence to get it the front line troops. Could the Russians still win? Sure. But if they really do deploy an additional 300,000-500,00 men, they better win fast — before their troops starve in the cold.
Considering the very modest aid they have received, yes indeed. Very little aid was in play before July 2022 btw.
Even now maybe 2/3 of their equipment, especially the tanks, and other heavy stuff, SAMs, etc, is the stuff they had to begin with. They have humiliated the Russians.
The only technological odd shifts they have had is US recon and signals intel plus HIMARS.
And the moral is to the material as 3 is to 1, or whatever version of the quote you like.
$100,000,000 in money and aid is modest. Without it they would have lost long ago.
They’re conscripting 16 yr olds and 60yr olds.
If they’re so successful, why are we buying them 31 tanks? https://americanmilitarynews.com/2023/01/us-to-buy-31-new-abrams-tanks-to-fill-order-for-ukraine/
All you’re cheerleading from the comfort of your home in the US.
Vying to be one of the top couch commando clowns on this site. And that’s saying quite a bit.
You write the same shit in every post.
Come up with something new. Like everything written by Russians, you are boring and ramble on about nothing.
Currently I’m in Manila. I will be in the US in a couple of months. Then back to Spain. It takes work, being an international man of mystery.
Why shouldn’t you buy them tanks? War has an endless appetite. Its also very expensive. Ukraine couldn’t have kept up the fight for more than a few months without aid. Equipment isn’t only destroyed, it is used up and worn out. Ammo runs out. Ukraine is being attacked by a much bigger opponent.
But being large does not give Russia the right of it. Its cause is unjust.
And you do the same. Only your post are in support of the Ukrainians.
Yet, it appears you’re still in the comfort of your living room posting the same sh*t that all the other ProZelensky folks post.
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