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Fury in Ukraine as Elon Musk’s SpaceX limits Starlink use for drones
The Guardian ^ | 9 February 2023 | Staff

Posted on 02/09/2023 1:05:13 PM PST by NautiNurse

SpaceX says satellite communications service ‘never, never meant to be weaponised’

A senior Ukrainian presidential aide has reacted with anger after Elon Musk’s SpaceX said it had taken steps to prevent its Starlink satellite communications service from controlling drones, which are critical to Kyiv’s forces in fighting off the Russian invasion.

Gwynne Shotwell, SpaceX’s chief operating officer, said at a conference in the US that the surprise decision had been taken because it had never been the company’s intention to allow Starlink to be used “for offensive purposes”.

That prompted an immediate complaint on Thursday morning from Mykhailo Podolyak, a senior adviser to Ukraine’s president, Volodymr Zelenskiy, who argued that Musk’s business had failed to recognise Ukraine’s right to self-defence.

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>Shortly after the start of the war, Musk, SpaceX’s founder, agreed to provide Starlink for nothing to Ukraine, in response to a plea made on Twitter by Mykhailo Fedorov, Ukraine’s minister of digital transformation. “Starlink service is now active in Ukraine,” Musk said in reply.

Ukrainian forces use Starlink to help control their large network of surveillance drones, critical to monitor Russian troop concentrations and military movements, at a time when Moscow’s forces are on the attack across large parts of the eastern front.

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“F**k off is my very diplomatic reply to you,” replied Andrij Melnyk, Ukraine’s ambassador to Germany, prompting Musk to threaten to stop providing Starlink to Ukraine. Musk had said that providing Starlink was costly to SpaceX, although the US government pays at least some of the costs.

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Musk provides the service for Ukraine civilian use at a loss. In turn, Ukraine makes Starlink satellites military targets for the Russians.

Earlier thread: SpaceX has taken steps to prevent 🇺🇦#Ukraine's military from using the company's #Starlink satellite internet service for controlling drones in the region

1 posted on 02/09/2023 1:05:13 PM PST by NautiNurse
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To: NautiNurse
That prompted an immediate complaint on Thursday morning from Mykhailo Podolyak, a senior adviser to Ukraine's president, Volodymr Zelenskiy, who argued that Musk's business had failed to recognise Ukraine's right to self-defence.

LOL! Shove it, sicko Ukrainian shill, and defend yourself with your own resources, for free.

2 posted on 02/09/2023 1:07:40 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ConservativeMind

These Ukrainian leaders never cease to amaze me with their entitlements at all costs.


3 posted on 02/09/2023 1:10:48 PM PST by NautiNurse (There was a 2022 mid-term Red Wave...in Florida! )
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To: NautiNurse
“F**k off is my very diplomatic reply to you,” replied Andrij Melnyk, Ukraine’s ambassador to Germany…

LOL - stay classy, Andrij.

4 posted on 02/09/2023 1:12:49 PM PST by Allegra
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To: ConservativeMind

Ukraine has a right to self-defense.
What part of “self” do they not understand?


5 posted on 02/09/2023 1:14:34 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Truth is not hate speech.)
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To: Kazan; JonPreston

FR Ukie PropAgenda touts are saddened.


6 posted on 02/09/2023 1:14:40 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: NautiNurse

Silly me, I thought SpaceX is a private company that’s not involved in wars…
Musk has every right to not want his company involved in war.
The tentacles are almost impossible to remove once the squeeze is applied.

These Ukrainian “leaders” are something else.


7 posted on 02/09/2023 1:17:47 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Nervous Tick

That whole “self” thing…


8 posted on 02/09/2023 1:18:26 PM PST by EEGator
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To: NautiNurse

9 posted on 02/09/2023 1:18:28 PM PST by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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Musk should deactivate Starlink all over Ukraine.

Perhaps they will be a bit more appreciative.

10 posted on 02/09/2023 1:18:40 PM PST by hcmama
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To: NautiNurse

Didn’t Ukraine issue a death sentence for him for some reason some time ago.


11 posted on 02/09/2023 1:18:58 PM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: hcmama

Check out the last paragraph above. Ukraine’s charming ambassador to Germany prompted Musk to threaten pulling the plug on Starlink in Ukraine.


12 posted on 02/09/2023 1:21:49 PM PST by NautiNurse (There was a 2022 mid-term Red Wave...in Florida! )
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To: NautiNurse

Yeah, I have about had it up to my here (my kneecaps) with Zelensky


13 posted on 02/09/2023 1:22:58 PM PST by hcmama
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To: McGruff

I vaguely recall Russia issued some death threats toward Musk and Starlink.


14 posted on 02/09/2023 1:24:28 PM PST by NautiNurse (There was a 2022 mid-term Red Wave...in Florida! )
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To: NautiNurse

More proof that the government of Ukraine is straight up evil.


15 posted on 02/09/2023 1:25:08 PM PST by Revel
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To: NautiNurse

Never heard that....not even an inkling


16 posted on 02/09/2023 1:28:12 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Sacajaweau

If the Ukes don’t like it, they should just make their own satellite system.


17 posted on 02/09/2023 1:38:06 PM PST by TonyinLA ( I don't have sufficient information to make an informed opinion said no lefty ever.)
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To: kiryandil

Musk is turning out to be one ballsy guy.


18 posted on 02/09/2023 1:38:49 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: NautiNurse

It’s the Uke gov. that keep official kill lists that feature Americans like Tucker, Scott Ritter, etc, not the russkies.


19 posted on 02/09/2023 1:39:42 PM PST by TonyinLA ( I don't have sufficient information to make an informed opinion said no lefty ever.)
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To: TonyinLA

The Ukes did put Musk on their “kill on sight” list in Oct. 2022 but quickly removed him after the twatter crowd noticed.

So great allies, huh.


20 posted on 02/09/2023 1:45:03 PM PST by TonyinLA ( I don't have sufficient information to make an informed opinion said no lefty ever.)
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