Posted on 01/29/2023 8:50:51 AM PST by BusterDog
Discussion of the Russia-Ukraine war in Washington is increasingly dominated by the question of how it might end. To inform this discussion, this Perspective identifies ways in which the war could evolve and how alternative trajectories would affect U.S. interests. The authors argue that, in addition to minimizing the risks of major escalation, U.S. interests would be best served by avoiding a protracted conflict. The costs and risks of a long war in Ukraine are significant and outweigh the possible benefits of such a trajectory for the United States.
(Excerpt) Read more at rand.org ...
Well considering NeoCon’s track record over the last few decades my guess : it ends with America pissing away a lot of money and everything worse off than when we started
“Well considering NeoCon’s track record over the last few decades my guess : it ends with America pissing away a lot of money and everything worse off than when we started”
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Chaos, death, destruction, and the plundering of the nation’s treasure.
“RAND CORP (that’s right)”
I read the title, then read the source. Your “(that’s right)” was exactly right because I was a little shocked when I saw the source.
1st nothing in the summary of the article states that Russia is winning.
You added that.
Peace is not what Eisenhower called “Military Industrial Complex” wants.
Who the h*ll knows who is winning???? In here, you hear one then the other...Over and over and over, ad infinitum....
The Rand Corporation might as well move out of DC and to Idaho or somewhere else because the NEOCONS, with their M1’s and now F-16s going to Ukraine have NO INTENTION of stopping their war against Russia until DC is blown off the map, and even then they’ll try to keep fighting with whatever is left of what was the United States. Then, in Idaho, perhaps Rand can reflect on their part of what was done to the United States.
But what the hell, it will ‘teach Putin a lesson’, assuming our missiles get past their S-400s on those Moscow rooftops.
“1st nothing in the summary of the article states that Russia is winning.”
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Russia is winning. At least 100,000 less Ukes would be dead if the gov wasn’t successful in propagandizing you people.
The neocon track record includes the elimination and disintegration of the Soviet Union.
Turning almost all of Eastern Europe and central Europe into nato allies.
Containment of China through strong alliances with Japan Australia and others. The preservation of Taiwan.
Defeat of Al-Qaeda.
Iraq is now a democracy.
Little things like that.
Our “off ramp” thus far is hundreds of billions flushed with a ruined economy and smashed energy sector.
Our next off ramp is nuclear war and starvation events.
But we keep listening to the same neocon TRASH that’s bankrupting us and losing every war they start.
We should be DRAGGING them, but just watch them fleece our children and kill our nation.
Short wars are an illusion.
A lesson the Russians should have learned in Afghanistan.
A lesson the Americans should have learned in Vietnam
and Afghanistan.
Still it’s an attractive proposition that finds gullible
adherents. It’s a societal pitcher plant.
How this one will conclude has yet to be determined...
Let’s next look at what you consider to be defeats suffered by neocons.
Vietnam war completely won and peace agreement signed. Democrat leftists in Congress abandoned our ally to an invasion.
Insane withdrawal and abandonment of Afghanistan by leftist Biden administration.
Encouragement of Russian attacks on Ukraine by leftist Obama and Biden administrations.
Improper withdrawal from Iraq by leftist Obama administration.
Weakening of US military by leftist Obama and Biden administrations.
Collapse of Libya and abandonment of our embassy by leftist Obama administration and Hillary Clinton.
One gets very tired of the childish lies thrown around by people who understand nothing about history.
Most of you have now become the immoral and illogical left of the 1960s.
I’m more interested in America’s well being than a foreign country.
I don’t believe for a minute that the billions we spent benefited the Ukraine’s war effort. It enriched the oligarchs and corrupt politicians, and I am certain the big guy got his cut.
China is not “contained” in the least and only a moron would claim that it was. The ChiComs have hollowed out American industry, corrupted and co-opted our leadership, and have expanded their military capability exponentially.
Need longer war. More money needs to be made first.
Thanks for admitting you’re a neocon trashbag, and that your name is basically MUDD here.
I’ma save this one - so you can’t lie or have any senior moments.
Russia not only isn’t winning, but has been thrown back by massive counter attacks.
But a great muggle like you has figured out that our military aid has not been of a tiny bit of benefit even.
Please let us know your brand of peyote because I can’t make up facts as good as you.
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