Well considering NeoCon’s track record over the last few decades my guess : it ends with America pissing away a lot of money and everything worse off than when we started
“RAND CORP (that’s right)”
I read the title, then read the source. Your “(that’s right)” was exactly right because I was a little shocked when I saw the source.
1st nothing in the summary of the article states that Russia is winning.
You added that.
Peace is not what Eisenhower called “Military Industrial Complex” wants.
Who the h*ll knows who is winning???? In here, you hear one then the other...Over and over and over, ad infinitum....
The Rand Corporation might as well move out of DC and to Idaho or somewhere else because the NEOCONS, with their M1’s and now F-16s going to Ukraine have NO INTENTION of stopping their war against Russia until DC is blown off the map, and even then they’ll try to keep fighting with whatever is left of what was the United States. Then, in Idaho, perhaps Rand can reflect on their part of what was done to the United States.
But what the hell, it will ‘teach Putin a lesson’, assuming our missiles get past their S-400s on those Moscow rooftops.
Our “off ramp” thus far is hundreds of billions flushed with a ruined economy and smashed energy sector.
Our next off ramp is nuclear war and starvation events.
But we keep listening to the same neocon TRASH that’s bankrupting us and losing every war they start.
We should be DRAGGING them, but just watch them fleece our children and kill our nation.
Let’s next look at what you consider to be defeats suffered by neocons.
Vietnam war completely won and peace agreement signed. Democrat leftists in Congress abandoned our ally to an invasion.
Insane withdrawal and abandonment of Afghanistan by leftist Biden administration.
Encouragement of Russian attacks on Ukraine by leftist Obama and Biden administrations.
Improper withdrawal from Iraq by leftist Obama administration.
Weakening of US military by leftist Obama and Biden administrations.
Collapse of Libya and abandonment of our embassy by leftist Obama administration and Hillary Clinton.
One gets very tired of the childish lies thrown around by people who understand nothing about history.
Most of you have now become the immoral and illogical left of the 1960s.
I don’t believe for a minute that the billions we spent benefited the Ukraine’s war effort. It enriched the oligarchs and corrupt politicians, and I am certain the big guy got his cut.
Need longer war. More money needs to be made first.
From the linked ebook (download the pdf for free):
“Since October 2021, when he first briefed President Joe
Biden on Russia’s plans to invade Ukraine, Chairman
of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley reportedly kept
a list of “U.S. interests and strategic objectives” in the
crisis: “No. 1” was “Don’t have a kinetic conflict between
the U.S. military and NATO with Russia.” The second,
closely related, was “contain war inside the geographical
boundaries of Ukraine.”17
From the summary:
“in addition to minimizing the risks of major escalation, U.S. interests would be best served by avoiding a protracted conflict”
Rand says US and Ukrainian interests are DIVERGENT.
Continually subjecting US interests to Ukrainian interests is traitorous.
Fake and dishonest title. Nowhere in the original headline or article does it say that “Russia is winning.”
Ironically, RAND wrote a report in 2019 on how a war in Ukraine could be used to “extend Russia,” weaken it, promote “regime change,” etc...
Everything mentioned in that report has since been tried - and failed.
Now they have changed their tune.
Hmmmmm.
Continuation of the introduction on page 2 —
Some analysts make the case that the war is heading toward an outcome that would benefit the United States and Ukraine. Ukraine had battlefield momentum as of December 2022 and could conceivably fight until it succeeds in pushing the Russian military out of the country. Proponents of this view argue that the risks of Russian nuclear use or a war with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) will remain manageable. Once it is forced out of Ukraine, a chastened Russia would have little choice but to leave its neighbor in peace—and even pay reparations for the damage it caused. However, studies of past conflicts and a close look at the course of this one suggest that this optimistic scenario is improbable.
In this Perspective, therefore, we explore possible trajectories that the Russia-Ukraine war could take and how they might affect U.S. interests. We also consider what the United States could do to influence the course of the conflict.
An important caveat: This Perspective focuses on U.S. interests, which often align with but are not synonymous with Ukrainian interests. We acknowledge that Ukrainians have been the ones fighting and dying to protect their country against an unprovoked, illegal, and morally repugnant Russian invasion. Their cities have been flattened; their economy has been decimated; they have been the victims of the Russian army’s war crimes. However, the U.S. government nevertheless has an obligation to its citizens to determine how different war trajectories would affect U.S. interests and explore options for influencing the course of the war to promote those interests.
so somebody’s got a way to get Zelensky’s hand to release the stones of the UniParty in DC?
That would be a President Trump BTW
But, the makers of war machinery, and politicians come away fat and happy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAND_Corporation
“Not to be confused with American Research and Development Corporation, Remington Rand, Ingersoll Rand, or Sperry Rand.”
The RAND Corporation is headquartered in Santa Monica, California.
Very anti-American.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Ellsberg
“Daniel Ellsberg (born April 7, 1931) is an American political activist, and former United States military analyst. While employed by the RAND Corporation,...”