Let’s next look at what you consider to be defeats suffered by neocons.
Vietnam war completely won and peace agreement signed. Democrat leftists in Congress abandoned our ally to an invasion.
Insane withdrawal and abandonment of Afghanistan by leftist Biden administration.
Encouragement of Russian attacks on Ukraine by leftist Obama and Biden administrations.
Improper withdrawal from Iraq by leftist Obama administration.
Weakening of US military by leftist Obama and Biden administrations.
Collapse of Libya and abandonment of our embassy by leftist Obama administration and Hillary Clinton.
One gets very tired of the childish lies thrown around by people who understand nothing about history.
Most of you have now become the immoral and illogical left of the 1960s.
Your thesis is that the USA actually won wars we clearly lost like Vietnam, except the Left snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
We spent 20 years in Afghanistan and the Taliban over-ran it in a few weeks. The Left (Obama) prosecuted the war, including a neocon supported "surge" for his entire term.
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Revisionist history is supposed to bring some clever new insight, not just obscure the past with wishful thinking.Vietnam war completely won and peace agreement signed.
No one there at the time thought or claimed the war was won. Just as in Afghanistan most military analysts knew it was only a matter of time until the North won, once we left. The North was hardly "defeated" when we left. The Paris Peace Accords didn't even end the war, just Americas involvement.
Democrat leftists in Congress abandoned our ally to an invasion.You are essentially arguing that we should have re-invaded Vietnam after leaving. 15 years and 50,000 American lives wasn't enough?
You and fellow neocons don't factor in that Americans have a threshold for donating their young men to support the mad plans of the neocon war advocates. But any intelligent war plan would need to factor this in.
Insane withdrawal and abandonment of Afghanistan by leftist Biden administration.
Trump, like Nixon before him, negotiated directly with the enemy (Taliban) and left the puppet regime largely out of the loop. Trump's agreed upon terms foresaw all US troops leaving Afghanistan. Yes, Biden did a poor job on the withdrawal. But Trump negotiated it. Improper withdrawal from Iraq by leftist Obama administration. Weakening of US military by leftist Obama and Biden administrations.
One gets very tired of the childish lies thrown around by people who understand nothing about history.We neocon opponents aren't the ones indulging in fanciful revisionist history, that's you!
We are all very tired of your childish tantrums, ridiculous claims, and permanent wars. The neocons are a pox on America.