Posted on 12/31/2022 10:24:13 PM PST by Cronos
Russia has put forward a highly contentious list of security guarantees it says it wants the west to agree to in order to lower tensions in Europe and defuse the crisis over Ukraine, including many elements that have already been ruled out.
...The demands, spelled out by Moscow in full for the first time, were handed over to the US this week. They include a demand that Nato remove any troops or weapons deployed to countries that entered the alliance after 1997, which would include much of eastern Europe, including Poland, the former Soviet countries of Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, and the Balkan countries.
Russia has also demanded that Nato rule out further expansion, including the accession of Ukraine into the alliance, and that it does not hold drills without previous agreement from Russia in Ukraine, eastern Europe, in Caucasus countries such as Georgia or in Central Asia.
Those proposals are likely to be viewed extremely negatively by Nato countries, in particular Poland and the Baltic states. They have warned that Russia is attempting to re-establish a sphere of influence in the region and view the document as proof Moscow is seeking to limit their sovereignty.
(Excerpt) Read more at amp.theguardian.com ...
2022: The Year Trump Was Vindicated as EU Green Agenda Went Up in Smoke
In December, Breitbart London reported that imports of Liquified Natural Gas (LNG) from Russia actually increased by 21 per cent to the EU and UK compared to before the February invasion. This meant that the EU and UK paid Moscow nearly 27 billion euros ($28.4/£23.5 billion) for LNG.
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2023/01/01/the-year-trump-was-vindicated-as-the-eus-green-agenda-went-up-in-smoke/
So, you really think Putin was living in fear of a NATO invasion? Your pal Pedophile Putin, the 23-year dictator, does spend the big bucks on propaganda but only very weak minds buy it.
Death to those who try to spread the Hammer and Sickle further into Ukraine. Glory to Ukraine.
You are too:
a. dishonest
b. dull-witted
c. both a and b
to respond to my point, that you lied when you said Russia's invasion was made to pre-empt an Ukrainian invasion, so instead you change the subject. I'm going with "a".
Go stalk somebody who cares.
2022: The Year Trump Was Vindicated as EU Green Agenda Went Up in Smoke
In December, Breitbart London reported that imports of Liquified Natural Gas (LNG) from Russia actually increased by 21 per cent to the EU and UK compared to before the February invasion. This meant that the EU and UK paid Moscow nearly 27 billion euros ($28.4/£23.5 billion) for LNG.
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2023/01/01/the-year-trump-was-vindicated-as-the-eus-green-agenda-went-up-in-smoke/
” If they had done right for Ukraine then the Ukrainians would want to be strongly allied with Moscow.”
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Prior to this war Ukraine was receiving $2 billion in transit fees for the pipeline crossing their country as well as price breaks themselves, exactly what else was Russia expected to do for them? Ukraine had plenty of its own natural resources but remained a backward welfare state because its people are obviously incredibly STUPID! Now these morons have lost the most resource rich and industrialized part of their country in their bid to suck up to the West. Face it these people have demonstrated they are far too stupid and corrupt to be running a country.
I don’t waste my time reasoning with potatoes.
LOL, spoken like a true imperialistic and chauvinistic Russian, those Ukrainians are too stupid to run their own country, they need Russian masters.
Reality is Putin invaded an independent sovereign neighboring country of 40+ million people, that have a right to be free and not under Putin's boot. That's the basic question, do Ukrainians have the right to be free?
“do Ukrainians have the right to be free?”
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Free? LMAO they willingly became a lackey of Western imperialism so they could receive large infusions of Western money. Well it looks like that little ploy backfired and now they’ve lost the most valuable part of their country as well as the prospect of being a welfare dependent country for the foreseeable future. Like I’ve said, they are just an amazingly STUPID, greedy and corrupt people. Zelensky took these morons for a ride, and Ukraine will never live this down.
“I am no neocon and definitely believe that Putin is the aggressor.”
Many here side with the Neocons, but don’t want what the Neocons represent.
“Neutrality, continuing trading is NOT supporting Russian invasion, its just not taking sides. If 85% of the world supported the Russian invasion, they would have vetoed the UN motion condemning the Russian invasion.”
UN votes are nothing, if they won’t put their money where their mouths are, then they’ve picked a side, and it’s not our side.
Never forget what the Neocon-in-Chief said 20 years ago: “You’re either with us, or you’re with (them).”
Is Poland, Estonia or Latvia a "lackey of Western imperialism"? Russians cannot seem to accept that Ukrainians and ALL former eastern bloc nations would rather be part of the EU and have their standard of living vs some Russian-BananaStan Economic Group.
And..... Eurotrash are buying more Russian natural gas than before the war. Somehow this doesn’t feel like winning. Biden, as is his nature, is going to cock this up real good.
Putin didn’t object to these former Soviet block countries seeking economic integration with the EU, but draws the line at them allowing NATO to become a military threat on their borders. Tell me the US wouldn’t respond similarly if Russia set up military bases in Mexico or Canada. You must be Ukrainian yourself being this stupid.
No one is going to invade nuclear armed Russia. Poland and other countries have the right to join any military alliances they want to, they are free countries, not forever lackeys of Russia.
Yeah they are free to make their own decisions and they did - an incredibly foolish one. They would have to be delusional thinking Russia wouldn’t respond in the way they did. There’s video out there showing Ukrainian soldiers saying Kiev better hope the Russians get there before they do, because they want to take care of Zelensky themselves. The Ukrainians have been played for SUCKERS, and now they will suffer the consequences of their own stupidity.
Is that what history tells you, that the world should have the same fears and interests in Canada, Mexico, and America relations as the world must have for survival in European World wars and invasions, and nuclear annihilation threats?
I have no idea of what you’re trying to say.
It is silly to compare affairs and relations between Canada, America, and Mexico, with the hell that comes out of the European nations and the Russian threat to the world.
the only one making stupid decisions is your pedophile dictator, Vlady Putin
he started this war he can’t win, and is now stuck while the sanctions slowly starve Russia
that’s pretty stupid
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