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Russia's Lavrov: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals or Our Army Will Decide
Reuters via yahoo ^ | December 26, 2022 | Ronald Popeski and Lidia Kelly

Posted on 12/26/2022 7:43:26 PM PST by RomanSoldier19

Moscow's proposals for settlement in Ukraine are well known to Kyiv and either Ukraine fulfils them for their own good or the Russian army will decide the issue, TASS agency quoted Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov as saying.

"Our proposals for the demilitarization and denazification of the territories controlled by the regime, the elimination of threats to Russia's security emanating from there, including our new lands, are well known to the enemy," the state news agency quoted Lavrov as saying late on Monday.

"The point is simple: Fulfil them for your own good. Otherwise, the issue will be decided by the Russian army."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: accordingtoplan; negotiation; negotiations; norsevatnik; notourwar; putins3daywar; russia; stillnotourwar; swampniks; ukraine; vatniks
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To: BenLurkin

A partitioning of the Ukraine

The partition line would work best is to follow the Ukraine-Russian border.


121 posted on 12/27/2022 2:21:39 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Widget Jr

Douglas MacGregor has proven he is extremely unreliable.

He proved that when he planned the slaughter of Belgrade residents in the Kosovo War.


122 posted on 12/27/2022 2:24:32 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Williams

One of them even has his own podcast! The guy with all the memes ...


123 posted on 12/27/2022 2:27:21 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Williams

Yup. And every now and then, a slip up in usage suggests a Slavic accent from a Russian troll farm.


124 posted on 12/27/2022 2:28:03 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

You can also identify them on Ukraine and other threads by their constant drumbeat of isolationism (’its none of our business’, etc) straight out of A. Dugan’s political philosophy which is religiously followed by V. Putin.


125 posted on 12/27/2022 2:33:37 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Getready

Was recently reading about Chechen war with Russia..

There were two Chechen wars - Russian mostly lost the first one, but one the second one. Things there are, IMHO, only quiet because V. Putin allowed Kaderov to rise to power.

As for the style of fighting - its attrition, use massive artillery bombardments, keep throwing men and resources at the enemy - losses are irrelevant.

That is basically the Soviet Doctrine unchanged since WWII. Only the Wagner Group rises above that and are somewhat effective.


126 posted on 12/27/2022 2:56:11 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

What should the United States do if the Russians do manage to roll into central Ukraine and defeat the Ukraine Army?

Not only unlikely, but impossible. No trained troops, no artillery shells, except what they can get from North Korea, no high tech, except what they can get from Iran. The list goes on.

Modern-day Russia is not the Soviet Union.


127 posted on 12/27/2022 3:00:09 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: alexander_busek
"It is inevitable that Russia will have to be partitioned. But then we will have true peace."

Not partitioned, eliminated.

128 posted on 12/27/2022 3:02:29 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: NorseViking

Well, bad examples.
They have not decided there either!
Like I said, government decision making is extremally slow everywhere, and force does not seem to be able to decide everywhere!
The Ukrainians I know, they have decided a long time ago -
“Give me freedom or give me death!”

Really1
They volunteered, they got hurt, they went right back.
Dropping great job for some dirty ditch around Doneck!


129 posted on 12/27/2022 3:08:50 AM PST by AZJeep
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To: PIF

“You can also identify them on Ukraine and other threads by their constant drumbeat of isolationism (’its none of our business’, etc)”

So when are you signing up for the Infantry?


130 posted on 12/27/2022 3:14:57 AM PST by sumuam
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To: Lurker

Epic LOL!


131 posted on 12/27/2022 3:17:37 AM PST by FreshPrince
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To: Sacajaweau

What a Constitutional idea that just doesn’t fly in Washington DC anymore.


132 posted on 12/27/2022 3:20:18 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Sacajaweau

What a Constitutional idea that just doesn’t fly in Washington DC anymore.


133 posted on 12/27/2022 3:20:18 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: sumuam

over 50 years ago, and you, troll?


134 posted on 12/27/2022 3:24:17 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: BobL

“When people here deny that the Great Reset even exists,”

If the Great Reset is true, millions should be dropping like flies due to the covid vaccine imposed on us by the reseters.

Millions should be starving to death because those evil reseters destroyed our food production capability.

Biden should have started a nuclear war by now becaause that is what he wants to fulfill the wishes of the reseters.

There should be millions of people freezing to death here and in Europe because of the evil reseters.

All is not true. Ergo “great reset” is Great bs.


135 posted on 12/27/2022 3:26:57 AM PST by FreshPrince
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To: PIF

How did that work out for the U.S.A, now, and you want to send more young Americans to die as they did in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, and then all the while bring the enemy in here where they have whole communities on our tax dollars and then breed like coyotes. Being in the military doesn’t mean you served in actual combat. I don’t care if you served 100 years ago. Get your bony ass out there and fight a war that only serves the globalists.


136 posted on 12/27/2022 3:33:41 AM PST by sumuam
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To: FreshPrince

Boy you are really really being stupid of you honestly don’t believe the world is being reset!!


137 posted on 12/27/2022 3:33:48 AM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

I think one would be really stupid to say the world is being “reset” based on nonsense predictions that never happen.


138 posted on 12/27/2022 4:25:04 AM PST by FreshPrince
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To: sumuam

“and you want to send more young Americans to die as they did in Vietnam”

Where did he say that?


139 posted on 12/27/2022 4:26:31 AM PST by FreshPrince
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To: BobL

Curious how many ethnic Estonians Latvians Lithuanians, Poles, Ukrainians and others under the control of the Soviet Union were cleansed or relocated, I would say that many if not most of the 8 million you are referring to arrived after the Soviet Union did their thing. How many Russians have migrated to Crimea since 2014 and are they part of your 8 million?


140 posted on 12/27/2022 4:30:29 AM PST by blitz128
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