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Russia's Lavrov: Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals or Our Army Will Decide
Reuters via yahoo ^ | December 26, 2022 | Ronald Popeski and Lidia Kelly

Posted on 12/26/2022 7:43:26 PM PST by RomanSoldier19

Moscow's proposals for settlement in Ukraine are well known to Kyiv and either Ukraine fulfils them for their own good or the Russian army will decide the issue, TASS agency quoted Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov as saying.

"Our proposals for the demilitarization and denazification of the territories controlled by the regime, the elimination of threats to Russia's security emanating from there, including our new lands, are well known to the enemy," the state news agency quoted Lavrov as saying late on Monday.

"The point is simple: Fulfil them for your own good. Otherwise, the issue will be decided by the Russian army."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: accordingtoplan; negotiation; negotiations; norsevatnik; notourwar; putins3daywar; russia; stillnotourwar; swampniks; ukraine; vatniks
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To: kiryandil

“It will be entertaining listening to our resident neoconned warpiggies squeal when they get introduced to realpolitik, Vlad style.”

I just don’t know why people get so worked up about such a decadent, corrupt, Democrat-loving, country...to the point of calling us treasonous, simply because we don’t want the US involved.

Actually, I do have some suspicions about these people, based on a number of factors, but I prefer to keep them to myself.


21 posted on 12/26/2022 8:10:21 PM PST by BobL
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To: AZJeep

Who sets the deadlines? How long did it take for the US in Iraq and Afghanistan?


22 posted on 12/26/2022 8:11:31 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: Alter Kaker

Every time I think I’ve seen the dumbest neoconned post on the war with the Ukraine, another neoconned dupe chimes in with yet another over-the-topper.


23 posted on 12/26/2022 8:12:20 PM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: Williams
Putin's foreign minister Sergei Lavrov 'poses alongside "mistress" and "porn star prostitute" during official trip to Japan' in photo revealed by new exposé

The leadership of Russia - ya know...that nation that lectures America on morality - is in reality a bunch of unrepentant filthy slime.

24 posted on 12/26/2022 8:15:05 PM PST by DoodleBob ( Gravity’s waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: BobL; Williams
billy the punk enjoys defending the stolen "elections", apparently.

We wouldn't even be in the Ukraine if it wasn't for the 2020 coup run by his neocon pals.

25 posted on 12/26/2022 8:15:39 PM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Well, it’s good that Russia has made its negotiating posture public and unmistakeable. All the new territories, demilitarization of Ukraine, etc.. Those demands make any settlement impossible, so we should start shipping the Ukrainians some better equipment as rapidly as they can handle it.


26 posted on 12/26/2022 8:17:20 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: jimwatx

Since the Russians abandoned Kherson and their bridgehead over the Dneiper, it’s going to take a truly vast effort to make an opposed crossing to get it back. Odessa is out of reach. Not for years.


27 posted on 12/26/2022 8:17:56 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: RomanSoldier19
Kaja Kallas. Prime minister of Estonia, on Russian negotiation tactics.
  1. Demand the maximum and what Russia has never had before.
  2. Make ultimatums and threats.
  3. Do not compromise, there are westerners who are willing to give for what they want.
The result, Russia gets some of what it never had and wants, for little offered in return.

It is worth noting, Russia tired to let the army decide the issue starting ten months ago. It is not working out for them as planned.

Also, Douglas MacGregor has proven he is extremely unreliable.

28 posted on 12/26/2022 8:18:11 PM PST by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - Just say no to CCCP 2.0)
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To: BenLurkin

“A partitioning of the Ukraine may be the only path to long term peace in the region.”

It’s either that or the forced relocation (ethnic cleansing) of 8 million of so Russian speakers, communities dating back at least 250 years. And while it is a crime to do that, it is only other outcome, short of genocide, that can come from this war.


29 posted on 12/26/2022 8:18:56 PM PST by BobL
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To: Williams

Who the F brought all the America hating Russia loving pigs to FR.
______________________

Russian disinformation trolls!
They brought themselves in, without invitation.
I do not think their writing is treasonous. They are just doing their job, what they got paid by their GRU overlords. I am quite sure they are sitting in their office in St. Petersburg or in the same general area, and working hard on their next misinformation.


30 posted on 12/26/2022 8:19:32 PM PST by AZJeep
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To: for-q-clinton

But now they will REALLY try. //sarcasm


31 posted on 12/26/2022 8:21:53 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: kiryandil

The Russia brigade discredits itself every time out because the “arguments” raised are about as absurd as you can get.

For example I’ve been here hating democrats longer than most.

So here they come “arguing” that support for Ukraine means: supporting Soros, the gay agenda, open borders, stolen elections, and every other irrelevant nonsense they can make up.

Oh and anyone disagreeing with them is also being “paid” by Soros, the neocons or whatever else they feel like making up.

Meanwhile their rhetoric becomes more and more anti American. And no it’s not acceptable to turn on America itself every time a Democrat is in office.

They list NATO as an enemy. They support Iran against Ukraine. They write love letters declaring how much Russia is better than the United States.

Absolutely bonkers.


32 posted on 12/26/2022 8:33:06 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: AZJeep

They have been here a long time. They are nuts but I do not believe most of them are in Russia.


33 posted on 12/26/2022 8:35:13 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: RomanSoldier19

“ Otherwise, the issue will be decided by the Russian army.”

They were supposed to conquer all of Ukraine in 30 days almost a year ago. That’s what everyone said.

Right?

L


34 posted on 12/26/2022 8:37:22 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Williams
Their logic is simple. Because Biden is evil, the U.S. as a country is evil, and therefore any country that opposes ours, whether it be China, Russia, Iran, etc , are the new good guys. And we're the bad guys.

Same logic as those who used to spit in the faces of our troops returning from overseas, really. They/we are the bad guys now.

That's what now passes for true patriotism, apparently.

35 posted on 12/26/2022 8:38:17 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: RomanSoldier19
Expectations:
Either Ukraine Fulfils Moscow's Proposals or Our Army Will Decide

Reality:
Ukrainian troops from the 108th brigade storming a Russian trench and taking POWs

36 posted on 12/26/2022 8:38:39 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: NorseViking

“Who sets the deadlines?”

Not the tattered shreds of the Russian army, apparently, or their completely incompetent “leadership”.

Weren’t you jokers supposed to have taken Kiev almost a year ago now?

You need to start hanging out with those Q nutballs. Your predictions are almost as accurate as theirs. Which is to say not accurate at all.

L


37 posted on 12/26/2022 8:41:03 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Williams
And no it’s not acceptable to turn on America itself every time a Democrat is in office.

Get used to a Democrat being in office, forever.

38 posted on 12/26/2022 8:42:26 PM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: Vermont Lt

Yeah the gloves are REALLY coming off this time! Its over! Double true!


39 posted on 12/26/2022 8:43:44 PM PST by FreshPrince
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To: Lurker

Gen. Milley, is it you?


40 posted on 12/26/2022 8:43:50 PM PST by NorseViking
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