Posted on 12/08/2022 7:26:40 AM PST by euram
America’s favorite moneypot is back, just in time for our American leaders’ favorite pleasure: persecuting devout Christians on the basis of their faith. Yesterday, President Zelensky of Ukraine announced Draft Law 8821, which will make the Ukrainian Orthodox Church illegal throughout the country. The law, if passed, will also allow the Ukrainian government the ability to confiscate all church property and outlaw both public and private practice of the religion.
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The actual Ukrainian Orthodox church is not affected by the law at all, except that they may get to administer religious activities at places where the Russian dominated Orthodox church was in control previously.
Do you actually believe the nonsense you post? The law in Ukraine does not ban Christianity, or any sect of it. The ban is against a Russian controlled church organization.
I don't recall seeing you upset about the US government banning ISIS or Al Qaeda from operating mosques here.
Could you show us your posts complaining about the arrest of Muslims from mosques that provided aid to ISIS or Al Qaeda?
Really? So you think all the world's efforts to destroy ISIS were a bad thing because their right to practice their religion was interfered with.
Are you OK with the types of sacrifices supported by certain religions? How about the Satanic Temple? Do you support them?
Russian Orthodox Church has always been a tool of the Russian state, whether under the Tsar, the Commie, or Putin.
You focus on the killers and their commanders, you don’t outlaw a religion. Your thinking is how despots thrive.
“Time” magazine creep of the year!!!!
God help and save ALL Orthodox Christians!!!!
And NO MORE US money for Zelensky’s Ukraine!!!!
“With that attitude, soon there won’t be anything but fake news posted on FR”.
That’s why I said what I said.
“No, he isn’t “banning Russian language services”.”
Good point, he’s already outlawed the Russian language. Part of his ethnic cleansing.
Thanks for your clarification. I met Patriarch Filaret some years back when he was head of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church before it split off.
I hope that as you look into the actual facts of this, you will acknowledge your error.
***About 67.3% of the population declared adherence to one of the Eastern Orthodox Churches (28.7% of the Kyiv Patriarchate, 23.4% state simply ‘Orthodox’ with no declaration as to which Patriarchate they belong to, 12.8% of the Moscow Patriarchate, 0.3% Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church, and 1.9% other types of Orthodoxy),***
“”In that part of the world, that’s the same as outlawing Christianity.””
Not banning Christianity or the Orthodox denominations, just the Russian/FSB/government-controlled one that is causing problems during this invasion.
If I’m reading this correctly this is how Wiki reports it, most Orthodox in Ukraine are in the Orthodox Church of Ukraine.
“”Ukrainian Orthodox Church (Moscow Patriarchate)
Not to be confused with Orthodox Church of Ukraine.
Members 6% of the Ukrainian Orthodox population””
“”The Orthodox Church of Ukraine
Members 78% of the Ukrainian Orthodox population””
Ukrainian Orthodox Church “of Moscow” would be an appropriate name.
“Orthodox Church of Ukraine” is different. And not affected by the new law.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartholomew_I_of_Constantinople
“In 2018 the Moscow Patriarchate broke communion with the Ecumenical Patriarchate as a result of disputes over his decision to grant autocephaly to the Orthodox Church of Ukraine”
If I’m wrong maybe someone with better info will correct.
“...The Ukrainian Orthodox Church is under the Patriarch of Moscow... The other Orthodox denomination is the Orthodox Church of Ukraine...”
Meanwhile...
BRIAN: Are you the Judean People’s Front?
REG: F**k off!
BRIAN: What?
REG: Judean People’s Front. We’re the People’s Front of Judea! Judean People’s Front. Cawk.
FRANCIS: Wankers.
BRIAN: Can I... join your group?
REG: No. Piss off.
PEOPLE’S FRONT OF JUDEA: Shhhh. Shhhh. Shhh. Shh. Shhhh.
REG: Stumm.
JUDITH: Are you sure?
BRIAN: Oh, dead sure. I hate the Romans already.
REG: Listen. If you wanted to join the P.F.J., you’d have to really hate the Romans.
BRIAN: I do!
REG: Oh, yeah? How much?
BRIAN: A lot!
REG: Right. You’re in. Listen. The only people we hate more than the Romans are the f**king Judean People’s Front.
P.F.J.: Yeah...
JUDITH: Splitters.
P.F.J.: Splitters...
FRANCIS: And the Judean Popular People’s Front.
P.F.J.: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Splitters. Splitters...
LORETTA: And the People’s Front of Judea.
P.F.J.: Yeah. Splitters. Splitters...
REG: What?
LORETTA: The People’s Front of Judea. Splitters.
REG: We’re the People’s Front of Judea!
LORETTA: Oh. I thought we were the Popular Front.
REG: People’s Front! C-huh.
FRANCIS: Whatever happened to the Popular Front, Reg?
REG: He’s over there.
P.F.J.: Splitter!
As usual, Putinists are allowed to outright lie, gaslight and generally use any dishonest tactic they want on FR.
More Kremlin Propoganda. Ukraine isn’t going after Christians or the Ukranian Orthodox Church. It is going after KGB agents who are betraying Ukraine and thus the status of the Ukranian Orthodox Church as Ukranian.
https://emerging-europe.com/news/explainer-no-ukraines-president-hasnt-banned-the-orthodox-church/
Kremlinchick Carlson has fogotten about US actions during the Civil War, World War 1, and World War 2. We also sought to prevent the Soviet Union from controlling the Orthodox Church in America.
Georgia’s future hangs on the outcome of the war in Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBFz3e4JLO4
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