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Kiev can 'end suffering' by agreeing to our terms - Peskov
TeleTrader ^ | 11/24/22 | TeleTrader

Posted on 11/24/2022 6:35:44 AM PST by JonPreston

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To: JonPreston

But THAT attempt ended November of last year with a no. So again STOP LYING. Ukraine wasn’t joining NATO.


81 posted on 11/24/2022 8:02:34 AM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: kiryandil
To say nothing of Willie Brown’s holster shooting her mouth off about EUkraine’s NATO membership at München in February...

Yep. The blockhead contingent are extra thick this morning.

82 posted on 11/24/2022 8:02:57 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: discostu

Get real and learn that bankrupt people can not play world policeman. We need to get our own house in order first before propping up Soros bot Zelensky.


83 posted on 11/24/2022 8:04:19 AM PST by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: Travis McGee

An amazing photo. I’m amazed by many things: The brightness of the Po Valley, the Benelux/Ruhr region, Israel, and the Nile Delta; bright spots far from the coast in North Africa; bright spots far along the northern coast of Norway; Ireland is evenly lit; the Scots lowlands are bright but the highlands are largely dark; and how many spots of light there are in the middle of the North Sea!


84 posted on 11/24/2022 8:04:23 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: entropy12

So now you’ve shifted from “let the bully win cause money”. Any excuse for surrender is still surrender.

The simple fact is we kept letting Putin get away with it. At some point he was going to cross a line we had to fight. That’s the nature of bullies. Ukraine. Latvia. Poland. Norway. He wasn’t going to stop.


85 posted on 11/24/2022 8:05:11 AM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: discostu
blockhead

Biden assures Zelenskiy that NATO membership in Ukraine's hands, Kyiv says (12/9/21)

86 posted on 11/24/2022 8:06:24 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Donetsk, Luhansk, and Crimea seceded from the Russian controlled government in Kiev?

I have no idea what point you think you are trying to make in this post, but Donetsk, Luhansk and Crimea were invaded by Russian troops. They did not "secede" from anywhere. They were conquered.

87 posted on 11/24/2022 8:07:36 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: JonPreston
Why?


88 posted on 11/24/2022 8:08:49 AM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: JonPreston

Oh so now you believe Biden?! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA\


89 posted on 11/24/2022 8:09:12 AM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: JonPreston; discostu
You don't seem to understand what is required to join NATO. From your own article:

""President Biden said very clearly that the decision on Ukraine's accession to NATO is the decision of the Ukrainian people only, this is a sovereign and independent Ukrainian state," he said. "And it depends on Ukraine and NATO members.""

When Biden says, "depends on Ukraine," he means the application and the qualification process--which could take years in and of itself. And when he says "and NATO members," he means by satisfying all NATO governments. France and Germany had already expressed their opposition to Ukraine even attempting to join NATO some years ago.

You seem to be suggesting that Ukraine was going to join NATO through some special exemption or immediately. Obviously, that's not true at all, and so all your posts and repetitions on this matter--as I've explained to others--is simply false.

90 posted on 11/24/2022 8:11:18 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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91 posted on 11/24/2022 8:12:43 AM PST by Cathi
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Zelensky brought NATO to Russia’s front door, after Putin drew a bright red line, a line that was nearly as red as your nose.


92 posted on 11/24/2022 8:15:47 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: discostu

Putin is not stealing our money or our jobs. That would be China. Learn the real world. Get out of Utopia ASAP.


93 posted on 11/24/2022 8:16:42 AM PST by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

So there was no Euromaiden Revolution? There were no disenfranchised voters in East and South Ukraine?


94 posted on 11/24/2022 8:17:37 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: entropy12

And now it’s “surrender because there’s a different bully”.

Get out of your own ass dude. I’m not in utopia. You’re just a surrender addicted loser. Goodbye


95 posted on 11/24/2022 8:18:05 AM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: JonPreston
Zelensky brought NATO to Russia’s front door, after Putin drew a bright red line, a line that was nearly as red as your nose.

Repeating the lie does not make it more convincing.

96 posted on 11/24/2022 8:18:12 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: JonPreston

As an American general once said, during a battle when told to surrender, “NUTS!”.


97 posted on 11/24/2022 8:18:35 AM PST by kenmcg (t)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Last time I checked, Latvia and Estonia are both NATO members, and they border Russia. Finland is also applying to NATO and Russia isn’t invading them.

I think Putin just wanted Ukraine, and he expected an easy victory.


98 posted on 11/24/2022 8:19:09 AM PST by sloanrb
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To: JonPreston

As long as we are sending in the big bucks, there will be war. 10 years is the norm for this kind of scam.


99 posted on 11/24/2022 8:20:35 AM PST by wrench
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time; allendale

What are you talking about allendale? Everyone is trying to mediate an end to the war.

The Ukrainians have repeated since the beginning “stop the invasion and withdraw from the lands you invaded on February 24 and we can talk”.

But Putin wants yo keep killing Eastern Orthodox Slavs


100 posted on 11/24/2022 8:27:37 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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