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Why won’t a debunked conspiracy theory about doctors harmed by the COVID vaccine go away?
Toronto.com ^ | November 7, 2022 | Alex Boyd

Posted on 11/10/2022 8:37:47 PM PST by DoodleBob

...To be clear, experts are united on the fact that this is a conspiracy theory. The causes of death were well documented by family in news stories and obituaries. It’s not clear when they were vaccinated, and, besides which, their symptoms do not match what we know about vaccine side effects from studies on millions of people.

Millions of COVID vaccines have been administered in Canada, and billions around the world. Studies show the shot is overwhelmingly safe and effect, and serious side-effects exceedingly rare. So far, a coroner in Ontario included a blood clot related to vaccination in one person’s cause of death, and 50 cases of death that happened after vaccination are under investigation at the federal level.

Still, by late July and early August the conspiracy theory had become so prevalent that media organizations had stepped in to debunk it by pointing out the real reasons these doctors died. That includes American outlets such as USA Today and the international wire service Reuters.

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There are Facebook groups devoted to the idea — many of which have been created or grown in recent months — but which use coded language to disguise their intent, using euphemisms for the vaccine such as cupcake or juice.

One such private group named Died Suddenly Worldwide — created at the end of August, it now has more than 20,000 members who discuss why they think people they know were harmed by vaccines — even includes in its rules that members must use different code words....But the idea that doctors are dying has also been boosted by high-profile figures, too, including some outside the country.

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A big reason the conspiracy theory won't die, is because it'd be really easy to address this hypothesis. Somebody with access to Lexis/Nexus can do an article search for "died suddenly" and "died unexpectedly" in 2019 and 2022. They report their findings, and we decide.

And yet, nobody has done such a thing. Yellow flag.

Then there is the brandishing of the Hillary Clinton Defense: 'there is no evidence." Well, there was, at one time, "no evidence" that ulcers were caused by bacteria. The guys who proved that hypothesis got the Nobel for medicine.

Thus, many people wait. They'd believe a credible study. The absence of such a study fuels the fire.

1 posted on 11/10/2022 8:37:47 PM PST by DoodleBob
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To: DoodleBob

There is no evidence of voter fraud, why won’t these conspiracy theories just go away?


2 posted on 11/10/2022 8:41:31 PM PST by algore
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To: DoodleBob

Synopsis of story: Shut up and take your vax before we shove it down your bloody throats!


3 posted on 11/10/2022 8:43:19 PM PST by Dogbert41 (Baruch Ha Ba Ba Shem Adonai!)
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To: DoodleBob

An SDS member once wrote, “The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution.”


4 posted on 11/10/2022 8:48:41 PM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: DoodleBob; algore; Dogbert41
They're using code words because they never got their Ovaltine decoder rings in the mail when they were kids.

TOTALLY not because Big Tech will hunt them down and deplatform them if they use the real words.

We are fortunate that failed English major Alex Boyd has debunked this conspiracy theory for us.

5 posted on 11/10/2022 8:50:45 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: DoodleBob

“Studies show the shot is overwhelmingly safe and effect, and serious side-effects exceedingly rare.”

Why don’t I believe a company that makes BILLIONS off this narrative?


6 posted on 11/10/2022 8:51:09 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every leftist is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: DoodleBob

“Studies show the shot is overwhelmingly safe and effect,[sic]”

As “explained” by this weasel...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okw8mZbz_6U


7 posted on 11/10/2022 8:51:36 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: DoodleBob

Sudden Cardiac Death in athletes.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4969030/


8 posted on 11/10/2022 9:01:42 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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Studies show the shot is overwhelmingly safe and effect, and serious side-effects exceedingly rare

Bull Feathers.

There are ZERO long term studies on the safety of the jab.

Self reporting systems prove the jab is far more dangerous in the short term than vaccines. Arguments to the contrary are just full of BS. One does not get a huge spike in deaths like that unless there is a problem.

Studies also back up that the jabs cause a lot of blood clot problems. But only a moron needs to look past the VAERs data to know they are too dangerous to not be recalled and have those that authorized the use charged with crimes.

The benefits of the jab are marginal and short lived at best and absolutely failed from preventing the targeted virus from spreading everywhere. They are nothing even in the ballpark of the immunity of actual vaccines.

Accurate information about the jabs dangers and alternative safer more effective treatments is censored by social media aggressively and is being unconstitutionally directed by our government. Truth has been labeled "misinformation" and lies have been pushed as "verified fact".

Now you ask why people believe "conspiracy theories"? I would say its the fault of those that lie and censor and push this crap on us that some people have lost so much faith in official sources they find themselves believing conspircacy theories...many of which turn out right.

9 posted on 11/10/2022 9:08:07 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: Blood of Tyrants
MY own doctor said at the beginning:

"It's not a vaccine, it's not safe, and it's not effective."

Right on all three counts, but he's only a country doctor, not an "expert".

HE went out and caught the thing on purpose, treated himself with the HCQ cocktail, was back to work in a week, tested negative the second week, and never took any clotshots or boosters. His opinion of the booster racket is unprintable.

10 posted on 11/10/2022 9:12:01 PM PST by Chad C. Mulligan (CNN)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

bttt


11 posted on 11/10/2022 9:12:45 PM PST by linMcHlp
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To: AndyTheBear
The benefits of the jab are marginal and short lived at best and absolutely failed from preventing the targeted virus from spreading everywhere.

Fᴿauᴰci thinks he'll go down in history as the discoverer of the cure for the common cold ... if he can just make the data fit.

12 posted on 11/10/2022 9:17:41 PM PST by Tellurian (Your phone is your cattle tag.)
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“their symptoms do not match what we know about vaccine side effects from studies on millions of people.”

My allergy doctor always told me that my reactions to drugs never followed what he believed to be reactions to drugs. I always stumped him. Looked like reaction to aspirin, turned out it was reaction to erythromycin. Which lasted about six months, and that was odd, too. My next doctor was afraid to give me any meds because I was so often allergic. To date, all three of our adult children and one grandchild have severe allergic reaction to several drugs and eggs. BTW this grandchild has been fully vaccinated for everything. The other three grands have never had any vax, and have never had allergic reactions to meds or foods. I think vax can overstimulate the body and cause allergic reactions to components of the various vax.

My brother in law was a vet, now retired, and he stopped giving annual vax to pet. He changed it to every 2 or 3 years. He was starting to see over active immune systems in pets, like Lupus... Just like AIDS is underactive immune system, you can have over actie immune systems.

I have been in hospital twice with severe reaction to prescription drugs. All three kids have had severe reaction to drugs. And one granddaughter, allergic to eggs - used in many vax, and now amoxicillin. She has had to be rushed to ER with her reactions and she is only TWO.

Same thing with poison ivy, poison oak, poison sumac, stinging nettle, and even ingested oleander. Different reactions for different people and pets. We are all very different. One size fits all doesn’t work for vax either. Spouse is allergice to many pollens, I am allergic to none. He is allergic to poison ivy, not me. But he can take penicillin, I can’t, that stuff almost killed me.

March 2020 he almost DIED from reaction to Jardiance. We rushed him to the hospital where he was diagnosed with diabetic ketoacidosis. This is a well known possible side effect to the drug, which he had taken for a few years.

No drug or vax is ever 100% safe for everyone.


13 posted on 11/10/2022 9:22:03 PM PST by buffyt (I Miss Rush!!!)
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To: DoodleBob

“debunked” = dismissing the charge by citing some nebulous authority, because they lack the courage to address the facts.


14 posted on 11/10/2022 9:23:34 PM PST by G Larry ( When Leftists say "Population Control" it means Killing Billions, not "limiting growth".)
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To: DoodleBob

I shoot back.


15 posted on 11/10/2022 9:26:24 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: DoodleBob

Debunked?
Have the Facebook fack checkers weighed in?
Has KJP set the record straight?
/s


16 posted on 11/10/2022 10:04:50 PM PST by citizen (The pResident On Hot Mic With Florida Official: ‘No One F**ks With A Biden’)
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It’s not clear when they were vaccinated, and, besides which, their symptoms do not match what we know about vaccine side effects from studies on millions of people.

Nice circular reasoning there, buddy!

"That new cause can't be a cause because it's not one of the old causes that we already know about!"

Regards,

17 posted on 11/10/2022 11:11:34 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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Then there is the brandishing of the Hillary Clinton Defense: 'there is no evidence." Well, there was, at one time, "no evidence" that ulcers were caused by bacteria.

I find that it's actually worse than that. It's as though the "experts" were claiming that bacteria can't be the cause of ulcers because we already know that bacteria aren't the cause of ulcers and/or because we already know that something else (stress) is the cause of ulcers.

It's a tactic to prevent knowledge from expanding. It is essentially anti-science (anti-scientific method).

Regards,

18 posted on 11/10/2022 11:14:51 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: AndyTheBear
They are nothing even in the ballpark of the immunity of actual vaccines.

Bears repeating!

Regards,

19 posted on 11/10/2022 11:16:21 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: DoodleBob

I believe there are some statistics. Look at Edward Dowd on GETR. I have not researched this subject, and I don’t have the time to do so thoroughly right now.

However, my Congressman’s, Sean Casten, daughter died in her sleep—shortly after getting boosted...Big Dem proponent of the jabs...Of course no one will attribute her death to the vax (or anything else)...She was a healthy normal teen. Guess in this day and age, we are just to expect and accept that soccer players, track runners, other athletes, and healthy teens to keel over suddenly.

The powers that be have been so incorrect and dishonest, I don’t see how anyone would want to risk a child to such a poorly tested product. Especially since they are at minimal risk of COVID complications.


20 posted on 11/10/2022 11:44:24 PM PST by Freedom56v2
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