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DeSantis: GOP Establishment ‘Dead Wrong’ You Need Open Borders, Amnesty to Win Hispanic Vote
Breitbart ^ | November 08,2022 | JEFF POOR

Posted on 11/08/2022 4:39:54 PM PST by Hojczyk

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To: Golden Eagle
Yep, awful headline. Should be:

DeSantis: GOP Establishment ‘Dead Wrong’ That You Need Open Borders, Amnesty to Win Hispanic Vote

Don't they have editors at Breitbart??
21 posted on 11/08/2022 5:01:36 PM PST by Kenny Bania (Ovaltine? Why not call it Roundtine?)
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To: Hojczyk

This headline scared me for a minute until I saw there is no comma after “wrong.”


22 posted on 11/08/2022 5:08:15 PM PST by Nea Wood
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To: Hojczyk

This is so simple. Illegal aliens can’t vote (for now).

The voting Hispanics absolutely support a strong border. They came here legally. They are citizens. Why would they support anyone who wants to let every body and their Honduran uncle to be granted instant amnesty?


23 posted on 11/08/2022 5:09:28 PM PST by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down seven times, stand up eight. - Japanese proverb)
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To: RummyChick
Trump is beating up on him again because Desantis is the real deal and a real threat.<<<

Do you know why Trump said what he said... and still voted for him?

Evidently not... Trump stays on top of things....we should too

https://people.com/politics/ron-desantis-god-made-fighter-ad/

24 posted on 11/08/2022 5:19:34 PM PST by M-cubed (The MSM is now the 4th Branch of Government.....)
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To: Hojczyk

The GOP and the Rats made the mistake of thinking that Hispanics weren’t patriotic.


25 posted on 11/08/2022 5:20:32 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every leftist is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: ifinnegan
"Whole thing is quite a burn on Jeb."

GOP establishment is no different than the Democrats in that they think people are too stupid to make their own decisions on voting, or any other aspect of their lives. They've gotten to be as bad as the Democrats in that respect. That's why they and their ilk are part of the uni-party.

26 posted on 11/08/2022 5:21:40 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Let’s put it this way. Dems are pooping their pants because Blacks and Hispanics are smarter than the white liberal racists thought.


27 posted on 11/08/2022 5:23:01 PM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative)
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To: M-cubed

I dont have a problem with Desantis. I like him


28 posted on 11/08/2022 5:38:01 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Threat to demonrats!


29 posted on 11/08/2022 5:38:07 PM PST by rivercat
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To: Hojczyk

Most Mexicans hate illegal Mexicans.

I spent most of my childhood in MX. Hell of a place, hell of a people - but rules are rules.

The same evil people who vote dems have no problem with gangs or cartel violence - they justify it.


30 posted on 11/08/2022 5:38:28 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Hojczyk

Absolutely correct, we need to close the borders and deport all illegals, especially those that Biden has let in. But also those that Trump let in.


31 posted on 11/08/2022 5:49:46 PM PST by Reno89519 (FJB. Respect America, Embrace America, Buy American, Hire American.)
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To: Hojczyk

You have open borders anyway.

That border is only a pain in the ass for law abiding citizens, sort of like gun control is.

Look, all the drugs we want to buy and “illegals” our businesses hire, knowingly, do not really get prosecuted for by a government which could EASILY crack down via IRS, schools, medical facilities and local police with standard traffic stops are coming in anyhow.

You have entire industries and areas dependent on this labor.

It’s a farce where you want to pretend to crack down on the border at least to some folks, but NO ONE (Republicans or Democrats) really wants that except a few folks that haven’t a clue and think you can seal up this border.

This is a 2,000 mile long border and where you have major commerce across daily. 35,000 trucks cross that border DAILY - many of them are US businesses. Are you ready for this? There are roughly 350 million legal border crossing annually. Trying to seal that border up to where you effectively catch the drugs and stop illegal crossings would be costly to the tax payer, very difficult to accomplish, it would prove an enormous burden on commerce/business.

All that border is good for is catching some poor woman with her three children than can’t move well. She’s the easy target our heros in their multicam uniforms can report as catches. As to the drugs bla bla bla. The Mexicans are awesome at tunneling, and today they operate drones that haul the crap across the border right over that fat border guards head, with all his over sized patches and nylon straps doing little good.

Some conservative politicians need to pander, I get it. But do not believe for a second that the border stops more than maybe 10% of the drugs and much of that is folks that have it on them for personal use. The actual drug traffickers are working over and under those clowns.

So what is that border?

It’s another TSA.

It’s a show. Only this is political theater.

It’s action for the sake of showing action because a certain group of folks see that as important. So you put up fixed secondary border checks about 25 miles from the border where everyone knows where they are and have been for years... But it creates the illusion, the appearance as if something is being done. And don’t get me wrong, some buffoon in government might actually try to pretend as if he’s doing and accomplishing something (while asking for next year’s budget), but not really.

If US businesses hiring illegals were targeted, you’d fix that problem fast. But that is exactly the opposite of what we’re doing. We actually avoid targeting the employers (costly for business which can influence policies and their enforcement) and try to pick up illegals at their residence etc. the big firms hiring 200 illegals in a single plant doesn’t like the fines and our government abliges. As long as it is lucrative you’ll have an illegal issue and for everyone you catch, he’ll be replaced tomorrow. The true fix to this issue is to make it not lucrative but that isn’t happening because you have some pretty influential folks making sure things stay exactly as they are. So yes, it’s just a theater.


32 posted on 11/08/2022 5:50:29 PM PST by Red6
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To: Hojczyk

Just like TSA is worthless, so is most of that border show.

***The measures which we could reasonably implement which would be effective we do not want to do: go after employers.***

You see this happening naturally when the economy dips. The number of illegals decreases.

The measures required at the border to make it effective at stopping the flow of illegals and/or drugs would prove difficult because you’d impact business/commerce, violate folks rights and/or inconvenience them to the point where it would cause problems, it would be costly to the tax payer. So what you have are things that are highly visible, but ineffective, example: https://apnews.com/article/texas-united-states-san-antonio-laredo-f80721c90620e40124adad62e684519b


33 posted on 11/08/2022 6:25:36 PM PST by Red6
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To: sit-rep

What did you read? The headline itself is a hitpiece.

“DeSantis discussed this potential outcome, saying that his success there was proof you did not need to “move left” on borders and amnesty to win the Hispanic vote.”


34 posted on 11/08/2022 6:27:28 PM PST by Zack Attack
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To: sit-rep

You’re not the only one, friend!


35 posted on 11/08/2022 7:01:48 PM PST by _longranger81
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To: M-cubed

That ad is typical Biden, HRC.


36 posted on 11/12/2022 8:47:22 AM PST by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)
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