Posted on 11/07/2022 11:53:16 AM PST by marcusmaximus
Videos show desperate Russian troops fleeing from their burning tanks and a group of soldiers being blown up by Ukrainian missiles during a disastrous assault on a town in eastern Ukraine that saw 300 soldiers reportedly killed or wounded.
Footage shows Russian marines from the 155th Naval Infantry Brigade driving a burning T-80BVM tank, along a road in the largely destroyed town of Pavlivka, as flames and black smoke erupted from the vehicle following a Ukrainian strike.
A group of Russian soldiers can be seen climbing on top of the tank and jumping down before they ran away from the burning wreck.
Another astonishing video shows dozens of Russian marines, packed closely together, running into a deserted house in the town. A few seconds later, Ukrainian missiles rained down on them in a deadly strike.
Further footage shows Russian soldiers driving their tanks through minefields, with their vehicles erupting into flames one by one.
A number of Vladimir Putin's men can be seen lying dead in the ditches of the fields surrounding Pavlivka after they were shot by Ukrainian soldiers after they tried to flee their burning tanks.
The videos show just how calamitous Russia's assault on Pavlivka earlier this month was - and provides further evidence of Russian generals treating their recruits as 'cannon fodder'.
The assault was so disastrous that the Russian marines from the 155th Naval Infantry Brigade, who led the four-day assault, publicly criticised their 'incompetent' generals in an open letter.
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Your English is really improving!
I think this ends with massive defections and desertion. There is no way the Russians have any morale left. The Ukrainians can at least say they are defending Ukraine. What can the Russians say when it is 40 below? Without morale, the army will crumble. It’s like 1917. And look how that worked out for the world.
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“Iām paid in gratification at annoying morons.”
You get gratification at annoying yourself?
Couldn’t you find a less self-defeating hobby?
Most of the weapons are paid for and in inventory. Quite a few types were designed and manufactured primarily for a large war in Europe (as they are not what we would likely need in big numbers in a dustup with China, for example.) So if our weapons are destroying Russian weapons now, the idea is for Russia to be seriously weakened to the point of being unable to rebuild it’s own huge inventories, and then we won’t need those weapons of ours in, say, 2028, whether it be for use or deterrence vs. Russia. A minor point is that it’s probably cheaper to send the weapons to Ukraine than the costs of eventual removal from service or inventory.
Side note: Your info. on the Russian-Finnish conflicts is seriously incomplete. For starters:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation_War
And go from there...
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The economic support to Ukraine is another matter and I believe that at most it should come in the form of long term payback loans to the EU or Euro countries we judge should be in a position to repay in 5-10 years: Those Euro countries can then decide in what way to loan or give the money to Ukraine. (Personally, I’d go for mineral rights concessions.)
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As for why back Ukraine? Like the present global (Western plus some allies like Japan, Korea, etc.) security order or not, without it, our problems are going to be a hell of a lot bigger if it breaks up. For starters, major nuclear proliferation amongst MANY countries is a given if Russia is not beaten back. If you don’t understand that, you just don’t understand how this world works, and doesn’t work. A thorough restudy of history might help.
Not really directly related, but should be posted "somewhere", I stumbled across this:
Moscow mayor Yuriy Luzhkov campaigned to claim the city of Sevastopol which housed the fleet, and in December 1996 the Russian Federation Council officially endorsed the claim.[6] Spurred by these territorial claims, Ukraine proposed a "special partnership" with NATO in January 1997.[6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_Treaty_on_the_Status_and_Conditions_of_the_Black_Sea_Fleet
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