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Chinese President Xi warns he may use 'FORCE to retake Taiwan and slams US for interfering as he opens 20th Communist Party congress - where he will cement his place as the most powerful ruler since Mao
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Posted on 10/15/2022 10:16:21 PM PDT by algore

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To: algore

China/Taiwan is a tough problem. The U.S views Taiwan as part of China. You have the spectacle now of the U.S taking the stance that Donetsk,Luhansk and Crimea are part of Ukraine and Ukraine is right to take back the territory militarily that it sees as renegade, but China which views Taiwan as renegade may not take back Taiwan military without U.S opposition. Of course there are the arguments Ukraine is not run by commies and China is, but still it seems inconsistent to me. If Taiwan declared independence it would look even more inconsistent if the U.S intervened, given that it signed an agreement with the PRC recognising Taiwan as part of China. Don’t get me wrong, I loathe the CCP the way some loathe Putin on FR


21 posted on 10/16/2022 12:08:59 AM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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To: nwrep

Ok gongfei.


22 posted on 10/16/2022 12:20:08 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: sauropod

Yea. We need some here.


23 posted on 10/16/2022 12:50:10 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Maybe they’re not full supporters, but many of the younger people in Taiwan don’t hate the Motherland as their elders do. They see it as the best place to go and make money.


24 posted on 10/16/2022 12:52:33 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: Long Jon No Silver

China is one of Australia’s biggest threats


25 posted on 10/16/2022 1:05:45 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: Long Jon No Silver

US liberated Taiwan from Japan.

US owns Taiwan but is not a colonial power, but has never recognized PRC sovereignty over Taiwan. This goes back to 1949 and has never changed.


26 posted on 10/16/2022 1:13:51 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

You have it 100% backwards.

Young people in Taiwan overwhelmingly do not think Taiwan is part of China or that they are Chinese.

The dwindling number of Taiwanese that favor unification (not as part of PRC) are mainly older.


27 posted on 10/16/2022 1:17:48 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: algore

The saber rattling is ramped up due to the power struggle. After this party congress it will subside.


28 posted on 10/16/2022 1:19:20 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: canuck_conservative

And Canada’s for that matter. All those happy snaps taken my chinese tourists and students, go straight to Chinese military intelligence. They have every port in fine detail. Filling in the deficencies in satellite pics. I saw a bunch taking heaps of photos of our F35A L II’ the other day from outside the base fence and I looked around just hoping we are on top of this happy snap shite


29 posted on 10/16/2022 1:19:38 AM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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To: Long Jon No Silver

‘Taken by’ I should say


30 posted on 10/16/2022 1:20:28 AM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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To: Long Jon No Silver

no argument about that

and then there’s the matter of all the university students ...


31 posted on 10/16/2022 1:22:33 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: algore
In the 1990s, the Neoliberal Globalists predicted that once nations were no longer self-sufficient, producing everything they needed, then the resulting economic interdependence would make war unfeasible.

Why fight? We need China for its high tech manufacturing and medical supplies. And China needs our fast food chains and Hollywood tranny films.

32 posted on 10/16/2022 1:24:59 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: ifinnegan

That’s why it seems so contradictory. On the one hand the U.S doesn’t recognise mainland China sovereignty over Taiwan but still sees Taiwan as a part of China. I understand why the U.S came up with this bizarre scensrio in 72 as a means of trying to maybe de communise China ( and of course make some money). I could be wrong, but Taiwan is probably the only territory that is seen as part of another but is considered a sovereign entity.


33 posted on 10/16/2022 1:29:52 AM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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To: canuck_conservative

Definitely. And immigrstion too. Chinese have a long history in Australia, particularly during the goldrush years. But there numbers have increased a lot and they a not all concentrated in ‘chins towns’ now. There are nearly 1.5 millon now. Don’t get me wrong. I have nothing against Chinese per se. Historically they are a smart, industrious people, but I do have concerns that if push came to shove with China, we could have a considerable 5th column on our hands.


34 posted on 10/16/2022 1:37:23 AM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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To: algore

As usual Daily Mail exaggerates what XI said......and this is why Media is one of the top security dangers to the world.


35 posted on 10/16/2022 2:19:52 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: Robert357
Chicom to conquer Taiwan soon?  I don't know.  Me think ain't gonna happen soon.  It will be big disaster for tiny Taiwan and the giant mainland China economically, the whole Asian region will be on fire.  Forget about USA but if Chicom would really try to invade Taiwan, it ignite in to big war throughout Asia, i.e., Japan, nuclear armed India, Australia, and Philippines.  Yes, Taiwan is armed to the teeth and they're prepared to die fighting than onslaught by the communists.  I don't know if Taiwan's swarm of Yun Feng long range cruise missiles with neutron/nuke warheads, swarm of F-CK fighter bombers with neutron/nuclear bombs, and F-16s with neutron/nuclear bombs can pulverize their strategic targets in mainland China to get even?
36 posted on 10/16/2022 2:22:07 AM PDT by wannabegeek
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To: ifinnegan
I heard the entire speech - daily mail once again pushing for war by inflating what XI said.
37 posted on 10/16/2022 2:22:45 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: Long Jon No Silver

Yes it’s bizarre.

Nixon and Kissinger got all caught up in China and were willing to “trade” Taiwan for South Vietnam.

This fever took over the entire foreign policy establishment.

They failed to save South Vietnam yet still abandoned Taiwan. But Chiang and his son didn’t go along with it. Then Lee Teng-hui moved Taiwan to a full democracy and the policy became an anachronism. It’s like a superstition.


38 posted on 10/16/2022 2:27:40 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: caww

Sensationalism sells.


39 posted on 10/16/2022 2:28:12 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: algore; Fred Nerks
The Chinese now have a good thing.

Let them invade Taiwan,,,,,,and invoke the Wrath of Khan

Khan is feared around the world! ( sarc.)

Little gurls tremble at his touch!

America is about to lose its strategic advantage in the Western Pacific.We have no strategic oil reserve, aned Biden has sent half of our ordnance to Ukraine without replacing it. Joe Biden is abou to leave our allies Australia, South Korea Japan and others in the lurch.VERY BAD! Joe Biden needs to be tarred, feathered and run out on a rail.

40 posted on 10/16/2022 2:43:57 AM PDT by Candor7 (ObamaFascism:https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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