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Ukraine: Russian missile assault rocks Kyiv, other cities — live updates
Deutsche Welle ^

Posted on 10/10/2022 7:07:40 AM PDT by FarCenter

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To: Drew68; Renfrew

https://t.me/c/1639845981/294
Run, Forrest!:)


41 posted on 10/10/2022 7:53:58 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: cranked
Nope, no problems whatsoever out of you and others till.....now.

I was always against the Libyan war launched by Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

The Iraq case was much different. The USA had been in continual war with Iraq since they invaded Kuwait.

Civilian deaths are greatly disputed. The numbers are all over the map.

Every side gets to publish propaganda.

42 posted on 10/10/2022 7:53:59 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: canuck_conservative

You ARE joking:)


43 posted on 10/10/2022 7:54:23 AM PDT by Jumper ( )
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To: marktwain

More so with this war/conflict...
It’s so lopsided its not even remotely funny, but yeah.


44 posted on 10/10/2022 7:55:10 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Nextrush
I believe those Jupiter missiles in Turkey were going to be phased out anyway. I could be wrong. I think the whole thing was more of a draw than a Kennedy ‘victory’, as we agreed never to invade Cuba, but the narrative stuck that he stared down Khrushchev and the latter blinked. The good thing is we avoided total nuclear war. I only hope we avoid it again. We need some adults in the room as in 1962. Biden and company are hardly capable, and Putin is a wild card. Very dangerous times...
45 posted on 10/10/2022 7:56:49 AM PDT by Deo volente ("When we see the image of a baby in the womb, we glimpse the majesty of God's creation." Pres. Trump)
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To: Jumper

you think Russia will launch another 75 missiles tomorrow?


46 posted on 10/10/2022 7:57:01 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: DannyTN

Agree. Putin is tantruming again and begging the west to force Ukraine to surrender. A strong Russian leader would dominate Ukraine economically without all this mass murder. Putinist Russia is a weak and corrupt country so it must always resort to violence.


47 posted on 10/10/2022 7:57:36 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Nextrush
Your war will lead to a Xi Jinping victory IMHO.

It is not my war. I have been saying, repeatedly, China is one of the big winners in this war.

They probably had as much to win from Russia depleting its army and weapons stockpiles as NATO, probably more.

But allowing Russia to take over a sovereign nation, which they helped to create, and repeatedly guaranteed the borders of, simply emboldens China.

48 posted on 10/10/2022 7:58:59 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Nextrush

There is nothing to negotiate with a lying Bolshevik like Putin. He’s violated every agreement he ever signed with Ukraine. The only settlement possible here is for Russia to leave Ukraine. They can do that today but chose not to.


49 posted on 10/10/2022 7:59:32 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: MalPearce

You do realize that “sovereign Ukrainian territory” has been sovereign Russian (multiple times), German (multiple times), Ukrainian (multiple times), Polish, Turkish, Austrian, Hungarian, Belorussian, etc., etc. territory over the past 100 years. At least 15 times. You do realize we are talking about Donbas which is 40+% ethnic Russian (that you want to oppress). You’re pretty good at determining when the exact border in this area is perfect. All of the others are inferior to YOURS. And you’re ready to fight a nuclear war over those 60% in Donbas. Tell me, great sage, what is the perfect climate so we can destroy our self’s keeping it as you decree. Getting involved in this centuries old blood feud is even more stupid than trying to change the climate.


50 posted on 10/10/2022 8:00:44 AM PDT by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: circlecity

Russia has three options for its future:

1) Follow the Germany and Japan path of defeated rivals and become junior partners of the USA. Accept American dominance, but the yoke we force upon nations is a light one.
2) Become a vassal state to a China, which has no history of being gentle with its underlings
3) Be destroyed by the powerful empires on its borders.


51 posted on 10/10/2022 8:01:12 AM PDT by Renfrew
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To: FarCenter

Attacking a bridge that supplies an enemy’s forces is a legitimate military target, and is NOT a terrorist attack.

Putin is floundering for excuses now: First it was to demilitarize and “de-Nazify” Ukraine, and “rescue” the separatists in the Donbas. That excuse was ridiculed — and rightfully so — such that Putin had to come up with a new excuse, and one he’d been suggesting for many weeks: anti-terrorism.


52 posted on 10/10/2022 8:02:36 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: FarCenter
PUTIN/russia: evil,

Zelenski,Bidens NATO; righteous and justified in every action

we get it

53 posted on 10/10/2022 8:02:44 AM PDT by KTM rider (, or how Ambassador Stevens was killed because he was about to testify before the UN council )
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To: circlecity

Then hypersonic missions hit the iron dome sites. Lol


54 posted on 10/10/2022 8:02:55 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Renfrew

I guess I missed it when we bombed Russia into submission.


55 posted on 10/10/2022 8:04:17 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“No surprise here and again, this is what the west wants - war.”

Wait a minute: Wasn’t it Russia that invaded Ukraine, and not the other way around? And what “western” countries have invaded Russia?


56 posted on 10/10/2022 8:05:45 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: canuck_conservative
Your are exactly right. If Russia was capable of battlefield success, that is how it would have gotten its "revenge". But it isn't, so it has to resort to a weak imitation of the German Blitz on Britain.

A far stronger "shock and awe" campaign didn't induce the surrender of the Iraqi government in either 1991 or 2003, and it certainly won't happen in 2022 Ukraine. The real net effect will be that the Ukrainians will dig in their heels even more, and Russia will further deplete stockpiles of weapons that it can't replace.

57 posted on 10/10/2022 8:05:54 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Renfrew

Or go down fighting back. Which seems to be the option they’ve chosen.


58 posted on 10/10/2022 8:06:36 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“The citizens are the only ones with no one representing their interests.”

So NOW you’re concerned about citizens. What brought about that epiphany?


59 posted on 10/10/2022 8:07:42 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Renfrew

Containment is happening today. But it’s DC that a large chunk of the world is containing. Putin is containing NATO that is bent on world domination… so your analogy kind of works. Lol


60 posted on 10/10/2022 8:09:00 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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