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Putin seems to be aiming to destroy Russia.

Save Russia, get rid of Putin and leave Ukraine

1 posted on 09/25/2022 1:34:39 AM PDT by Cronos
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The Kremlin this summer scrambled to form a new army corps, seeking replacements for 80,000 troops injured or killed in Ukraine and 5,000 wrecked or captured vehicles.

The one thing I've learned during this war is: take the Russian casualty numbers from Ukrainian/Western sources, divide by five, and then you're in the ballpark.

2 posted on 09/25/2022 1:42:30 AM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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Nothing more than continued West/NATO/US/EU/UK propaganda disseminated for gullible uninformed Western audience cause most of the world outside of their cancerous influence does not believe it or is outright calling BS. Period.


4 posted on 09/25/2022 1:53:41 AM PDT by cranked
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Where are all the bodies then? You’d think tens of thousands of them would be stinking up the place by now. I doubt Russia has that much free time to dig graves, what with the Ukrainian Army “chasing” them out of Ukraine. 😝


5 posted on 09/25/2022 1:59:22 AM PDT by Prince of Space (Let’s Go, Brandon! )
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https://youtu.be/CsDoaOxZEAw


8 posted on 09/25/2022 2:07:54 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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That could very well be. Klaus Schwab did mention that Putin was one of his students.


11 posted on 09/25/2022 2:31:50 AM PDT by Jonty30 (Some men want to see the world burn. It is they that want you to buy an electric car.)
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Did they recruit from Berkeley?


15 posted on 09/25/2022 2:49:03 AM PDT by chuckee
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And the warfighting quality of the Russians being thrown into the field will degrade even more as Putin scrapes the bottom of his barrel for those unfortunate 300k. The Ukrainians are superior warfighters, with superior training and advances weaponry. Doubtless they are highly motivated to get at them.


16 posted on 09/25/2022 2:52:09 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Slava Ukraini!)
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Most misleading headline ever.


20 posted on 09/25/2022 3:18:45 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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Putards said for months the war was won for russia, ukraine was finished,and believes russian claim of only 5k kia.

Also said the latest uke offensive was a diasater for ukraine.

So why the need for mobilization?


21 posted on 09/25/2022 3:23:46 AM PDT by FreshPrince
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Boy is this article BS. Russia only sent 10% of their active troops into Eukraine. If they were actually losing like this article pretends that they are. Putin would have sent more. Then there are over a million reserves.


32 posted on 09/25/2022 4:08:06 AM PDT by foundedonpurpose (raise Hashem, for his restoration of all things!)
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From a contact in Russia:
On mobilization in Russia

One of my friends got mobilized recently. He’s a mobile gamedev and a conscientious objector. So he tried to flee his city (Petrozavodsk) and drove to the nearest border (of Kazakhstan) but the seemingly endless traffic jam made him return in despair.

That’s how they caught him and transported to the nearest voenkomat. He couldn’t believe his eyes. There was a WW2 veteran standing in line as a volunteer. Soldiers were given out vatniks sheathed in camo print. Boots with so many holes that they looked like crocs and kits with personal hygiene items that included condoms. Yes, condoms. A Russian analogue of Durex - Gusarskiye so naturally they were also peppered w/ holes - a point of hearty laughter of everyone involved

They were to be transported in cargo section of soviet plane to Ukraine.

They were allowed to “relax” for a few hours before that - i.e get drunk/high out of their minds and listen to the instructions of the Politruk who riled them up by talking about beauty of the Ukrainian woman and prosperity of the average household.

The tattered drunks of all ages were all ears. “Listen up, scum. You’re about to fly first class to a western democracy. So do what you do best: destroy their livelihoods and make them pay for being better than us. We will defile their land because we can. First and foremost, we are Eurasianists. We’ve learned from the best: Mongols, fascists and communists. You don’t need any training - it’s in your blood. No need for fancy gear either. The strongest will survive and bring his enemies to heel” as my friend later recalled speech.

So obviously he was looking for a way to escape this. He stood up and said “I’m gay”. A crazed mob jumped him and beat him bloody. But he smiled the whole time, ignoring broken ribs and bruises. Nevertheless he persisted. He’s going to prison for life for his orientation instead.

https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1573720852004208645


35 posted on 09/25/2022 4:24:56 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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My neighbor is back from Poland but haven’t had a chat with her yet. Should be interesting.


36 posted on 09/25/2022 4:24:58 AM PDT by rrrod (6a)
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David Axe is a leftist. Check out his Twitter @daxe His Tweets alternate between articles just like this one and far left takes on abortion. Weird.


39 posted on 09/25/2022 4:28:53 AM PDT by Stingray51 ( )
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Russia’s classic incompetence on full display.

They will never recover from this historic rout.


44 posted on 09/25/2022 5:11:36 AM PDT by Vaden (Real conservatives will not allow our wagon to be hitched to fascist Russia)
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Rumours continue to circulate that ATACMS missiles are being sent or are already in Ukraine. Not confirmed by US but Russia seems nervous about something. They are now pulling jets out of Crimea. Fear that Ukraine can reach the peninsula and can destroy them is the most likely reason.


46 posted on 09/25/2022 5:58:38 AM PDT by Vaden (Real conservatives will not allow our wagon to be hitched to fascist Russia)
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If this were a war between Ukraine and Russia it would have been over five minutes after it began.

The reason it wasn’t is because of the billions upon billions of US dollars, materiel and personnel being funnelled to it.


48 posted on 09/25/2022 6:07:58 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ( We need to “build back better” on the bones and ashes of those forcing us to “Build Back Better.")
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Salaries of $5k a month, in Russia, should have been a clue. Some actuary is running the numbers and they know the government wouldn’t be paying that for many months.


49 posted on 09/25/2022 6:18:23 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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I will speak to the limited reserves of modern armies:

In WWI and WWII, we went from a small standing army to a much larger army mostly by using conscription to fill out already existing National Guard and Reserve units. While conscripts could be trained in a relatively short time to perform specific duties, you needed cadres of seasoned officers and NCOs even back in those wars.

Nowadays, the training and experience needed to field effective army units is much more demanding.

In the Persian Gulf War, no NG units were part of the assault divisions, not even NG “round out” brigades of those divisions. Some NG combat support units were mobilized as part of Corps assets, as were a good number of AR service support units.

In hindsight, the decisions involving the National Guard and Army Reserve look like the correct decisions. But, if the war hadn’t gone as it did, if - for example - Iraq proved to be a tough foe, we would have had to dig deep into our reserves, and that would have required time for training and deployment.

The long war was different. The original plan was for our units to be replaced by the blue helmets of the U.N. But, the resistance we met meant that we would be an army of occupation until we could train up an Iraqi army capable of defending the country.

Even digging deeply into our reserves, we were hard pressed to do these things. Thinking they had done it, the Bush administration decided to replicate the success it thought it had achieved, in Afghanistan.

Eventually, as it became apparent that the Afghanis and the Iraqis - other than the Kurdish-Iraqis - weren’t worth shit, the American public turned against the war.

My point is that there are limits to mobilization. Yes, Russia is an authoritarian state, controls the media, and suppresses protest. These are advantages to people such as Putin. They think this gives them more freedom to wage war. But, even such a state has limitations based on its industrial capability, its manpower, and the will of the people.

Replacements for Russian losses were first ginned up by offer of pay and bonuses to conscripts to convert to contract, redeploying units from other missions, and such. Now, Putin is mobilizing anybody who once served in the military (mainly past conscripts). These people are designated as reservists. I suspect mobilizing current conscripts is next.

Few of the Russian soldiers in Ukraine are from either the Moscow or the St. Petersburg region. Instead, Russia calls upon the ethnic minorities and the rural masses. As happened in this country during the Viet Nam War, when the government ended college deferments, when Russia starts to draft the children of the privileged classes, the war will end.

In the meanwhile, there are a lot of poorly-trained, poorly-equipped, poorly-led, stupid and drunk Russians to kill. It’s a damn shame.


54 posted on 09/25/2022 7:14:19 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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Putin is reducing Russian population quicker than Covid did.


59 posted on 09/25/2022 7:49:21 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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Consider this possibility:

Who benefits most from Russia being bogged down in Ukraine, its forces destroyed and shown as weak, its Western oil and gas markets disrupted, causing Russia to sell cheap to the East? China. If the Russian center collapses, the constituent elements in Siberia and the Pacific Maritime areas, Kamchatka, etc., will set up shop on their own. Without Russian protection for these weak states, China can then annex the parts it wants over time, and the US can/will do nothing about it. China + Siberian petrochemicals is the complete package China needs for world domination. Joe and Hunter got their 30 pieces of silver. Yet fools who walked around in the Capitol are being tried for sedition.


61 posted on 09/25/2022 8:16:51 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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