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Russia’s Use of Iranian Kamikaze Drones Creates New Dangers for Ukrainian Troops
Wall Street Journal ^ | Sept. 17, 2022 8:51 am ET | Yaroslav Trofimov

Posted on 09/17/2022 7:08:09 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

Russia has inflicted serious damage on Ukrainian forces with recently introduced Iranian drones, in its first wide-scale deployment of a foreign weapons system since the war began, Ukrainian commanders say.

Over the past week, Shahed-136 delta-wing drones, repainted in Russian colors and rebranded as Geranium 2, started appearing over Ukrainian armor and artillery positions in the northeastern Kharkiv region, said Col. Rodion Kulagin, commander of artillery of Ukraine’s 92nd Mechanized Brigade.

In his brigade’s operational area alone, the Iranian drones have destroyed two 152-mm self-propelled howitzers, two 122-mm self-propelled howitzers, as well as two BTR armored infantry vehicles, he said.

Before the current wide-scale use of the Shaheds, Russia carried out a test last month, striking a U.S.-supplied M777 155-mm towed howitzer with the drone, Col. Kulagin said. Another Iranian drone malfunctioned and was recovered, he said.

So far, the Iranian drones seem to have been mostly deployed in the Kharkiv region, where the 92nd Brigade and other Ukrainian forces carried out a major offensive this month, retaking some 8,500 square kilometers, or roughly 3,300 square miles, of land occupied by Russia and seizing or destroying hundreds of Russian tanks, artillery pieces and armored carriers.

“In other areas, the Russians have overwhelming artillery firepower, and they manage with that. Here, they no longer have that artillery advantage, and so they have started to resort to these drones,” Col. Kulagin said.

Independent experts who examined photographs of recent drone wreckage from the Kharkiv region say that it appears to be Shahed-136, the latest evolution of Tehran’s delta-wing design.

Scott Crino, founder and chief executive of Red Six Solutions LLC, a strategic consulting firm, said the Shahed-136 could provide Russia with a “potent counterweight” to the high-tech weapons systems, such as Himars missile launchers, that the U.S. has provided to Ukraine.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: iran; itsokaywhenukesdoit; killerdrones; putin; putinlaughs; russia; russiawinning; ukraine; ukrainewhining
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To: Zhang Fei

Where are all those drones the U.S. provided to Ukraine?? Why are they seemingly absent? Do they not work? Any info?


41 posted on 09/18/2022 4:14:59 PM PDT by Vaden (Real conservatives will not allow our wagon to be hitched to fascist Russia)
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To: marcusmaximus; Paul R.; Bruce Campbells Chin; PIF; familyop; MercyFlush; tet68; BeauBo; TalBlack; ..

Ukraine ping

Vaden: [Where are all those drones the U.S. provided to Ukraine?? Why are they seemingly absent? Do they not work? Any info?]


Switchblades are 5.5 lbs a pop. That would seem to be ideal for special ops. That operation in Crimea, where they may have targeted a pile of ammo, triggering the destruction of over a dozen fueled and armed aircraft? That might be kamikaze drones.

There are no silver bullets. Ultimately, Ukrainians have to adapt faster than the Russians. They don’t need to be perfect - just better and quicker. If Western aid keeps up and doesn’t fall behind Russian efforts to ramp up its war effort, the weight of that aid should turn the tide in Ukraine’s favor, assuming neither the Ukrainian government nor people lose heart and decide to give up.


42 posted on 09/18/2022 4:53:22 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Zhang Fei
Never a fan of the Switchblade: tiny little warhead.

Was much more enamored with the Israeli Spike fiberoptic guided man-portable missile but nobody listened to me back then.

43 posted on 09/18/2022 5:41:25 PM PDT by Chainmail (Harrassment, to be effective, must be continuous.)
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To: Zhang Fei

They are saving a ton of stuff, it appears they were waiting for manpower and conditions


44 posted on 09/18/2022 5:54:35 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Zhang Fei

Your comment hits at the heart of what I was getting at in a roundabout way. Iran’s drones are small but are larger than the ones Ukraine has. Plus, they have a bigger warhead.

The US has focused on big drones like the Predator, but smaller drones seem to be sneakier and deadlier. Makes me worry about our own arsenal of small drones. Perhaps we should be finding a way to disable the small ones in the air.


45 posted on 09/18/2022 7:46:59 PM PDT by Vaden (Real conservatives will not allow our wagon to be hitched to fascist Russia)
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To: Zhang Fei
Kamikaze Drones

Anthropomorphizing machines. Does that raise the price when they are haggling?

46 posted on 09/18/2022 9:15:06 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: David Chase

These can be autonomous so good luck with that. Onboard AI.

12k km+ range and can loiter. Pretty advanced drones. Upthread there is a video of a salvo launch off of a flatbed that looks like a Mercedes-Benz Atego 1530 L 4x2. Given the known wheelbase the size of these drones can be estimated to exceed 1.2 meters in length. It is very difficult to estimate the warhead size but my guess is it exceeds 50lb of high explosives in a shaped charge config.

Not insignificant at all. Would give US forces problems en mass.


47 posted on 09/19/2022 4:02:00 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
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To: BenLurkin; Mark17

Mark, got any input on this #39?


48 posted on 09/19/2022 5:33:22 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Vaden

Large Silly String® canisters that entangle the blades on the rotors.


49 posted on 09/19/2022 5:35:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Transformers© Inc. have that covered already.
50 posted on 09/19/2022 5:36:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Zhang Fei
"Russia’s Use of Iranian Kamikaze Drones Creates New Dangers for Ukrainian Troops"

Good.

51 posted on 09/19/2022 6:57:15 PM PDT by ganeemead (There is no definition of patriotism that includes stooging or siding with Nazis against Christians.)
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To: ganeemead

Good?

So you support Putin’s killing of Slavs?


52 posted on 09/21/2022 5:04:44 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

I believe the defeat of this nato/neocon proxy war against Russia will be a good thing...


53 posted on 09/21/2022 5:34:34 AM PDT by ganeemead (There is no definition of patriotism that includes stooging or siding with Nazis against Christians.)
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To: ganeemead

This is not a proxy war against Russia.

This is Putin’s war


54 posted on 09/21/2022 5:37:18 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Elsie
What is the difference between kamikaze drones and cruise missiles?

The taste.

55 posted on 09/21/2022 5:49:32 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: Cronos

56 posted on 09/21/2022 5:56:09 AM PDT by ganeemead (There is no definition of patriotism that includes stooging or siding with Nazis against Christians.)
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To: BenLurkin; Elsie

The term kamikaze is reference to Japanese piloted planes that were in effect human piloted bombs. So, a kamikaze drone is a bomb that flies to the target and is destroyed on contact.

The German V1 was I believe a cruise missile that was imprecise in targeting. A present day cruise missile is very accurate and being pilot less is in fact a drone.

The catalogue of drones is vast. A drone can be anything from an unpiloted camara carrying toy to a large aircraft carrying an array of explosive weaponry. A drone is an aircraft piloted by remote control. Thus a cruise missile in the present context is a drone.

A drone is a male bee that has only one function. That function is to fly high and fast and have sex with the queen who is airborne for the singular purpose of having sex. A drone can’t defent the colony because it has no stinger. After the sex, the colony tolerates but pays no real attention to the drones that are now superfluous.

So, the terming of remote guided bomb carrying aircraft as drones is actually a misnomer. Drones can’t sting


57 posted on 09/21/2022 6:04:59 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: Lazamataz

chuckle


58 posted on 09/22/2022 4:29:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Zhang Fei

How dare them:

US Signs $2.2 Million Contract, Orders Switchblade 600 Kamikaze Drones For Ukraine

A document published by the Pentagon has announced $2.2 million contract for Switchblade 600 kamikaze drones to be delivered to Ukraine under USAI and the PDA.

https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/us-signs-2-dollars-2-cents-million-contract-orders-switchblade-600-kamikaze-drones-for-ukraine-articleshow.html


59 posted on 09/22/2022 4:33:14 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: McGruff

$3666 each?


60 posted on 09/22/2022 11:52:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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