Arlington Confederate Memorial Should Be Removed and USS Chancellorsville Renamed, Panel Says

Military.com ^ | Sept. 14, 2022 | Travis Tritten

[Mr. Mojo]

A towering bronze and granite monument to the Confederacy in Arlington National Cemetery depicts Southerners gallantly marching off to the Civil War -- and their Black slaves holding a white soldier's baby and following troops obediently.

Ringing the memorial, built in 1914, are shields listing the states that violently rebelled against the U.S. in an attempt to break away and keep about 4 million people in bondage.

"It is problematic from the top to the bottom," retired Brig. Gen. Ty Seidule, the vice chair of the Naming Commission, told a press gathering on Tuesday.

The 108-year-old monument should be stripped and removed down to its granite base plate, the commission will tell Congress in a forthcoming report on its recommendations. The latest and final report by the Naming Commission, created by Congress to scrub Confederate tributes from military property, will also recommend renaming the Navy ship USS Chancellorsville, which takes its name from a Civil War battle.

The Navy guided-missile cruiser is named after the Battle of Chancellorsville in 1863, which was a Confederate victory and a major win for Gen. Robert E. Lee, one of the South's most skilled military leaders. Confederate Lt. Gen. Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson was mortally wounded during the battle, according to the American Battlefield Trust.

The commission has completed three reports since August with sweeping recommendations for the Pentagon, which include renaming Fort Hood, Texas; Fort Bragg, North Carolina; Fort Benning, Georgia; and six other military bases in the South. It also said West Point and the Naval Academy should strip the names of Confederate military leaders from buildings and property.

[higgmeister]

In the same breath you should point out that all of the military units in the Union or the Confederacy fought for the individual State they were mustered from.   That is why the survivors pensions were granted by their individual State.

Before the war it was always the United States *are*, after the war it was the United States is... it made us an is.       -Shelby Foote

[kabar]

Union soldiers were covered under the federal system while each former Confederate state had to create and fund its own pension system. And in a change from previous conflicts, it was not only white male veterans who were covered. African American veterans on the Union side were eligible for pensions from the very beginning. Women were also included both as widows and as veterans (primarily nurses) as time went on. Orphaned children were also eligible for assistance although the process was daunting. Each category had its own set of eligibility rules and benefit limits that changed dramatically over time and affected politics on both sides of the Mason-Dixon Line.

https://www.essentialcivilwarcurriculum.com/civil-war-pensions.html#:~:text=For%20Union%20soldiers%2C%20the%20pension,on%20duty%20were%20also%20eligible.

[5th MEB]

The only good thing about those goddamn NORTHERN LIBRALS is the fact that their pussy attitudes and attack taxes chased most arms and ammunition manufacturers out of their states and into places like Tennessee, Arkansas, and Texas.

So now we have the manufacturing to really WHIP THEIR ASSES!

[USCG SimTech]

Just as the overturned alcohol prohibition amendment was not erased from history, never erase any history that demonstrates mistakes and wrongfulness. Scars persist to remind and warn those in the future.

[jeffersondem]

“Question 2. No as an answer causes of war are varied as the separation of political issues from direct action (Clausewitz) is too thin and murky to say what pushes groups or counties to order the first attack or uses an accident/incident to start a war. . .”

I understand this to mean that you do not believe the old saying that whoever fires “the very first shot” is necessarily responsible for the following war.

I agree. Otherwise we would have to adopt the ludicrous argument that the United States started the war with Japan by firing the first shot at Pearl Harbor. That won’t do.

To understand Lincoln’s War you must understand the reverence the South held for the basic principle in the Declaration of Independence: “That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them, shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”