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There Are Two Fundamentally Irreconcilable Constitutional Visions
Manhattan Contrarian ^ | 7-1-22 | Francis Menton

Posted on 07/03/2022 7:36:27 PM PDT by DeweyCA

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In the words of the great Thomas Sowell, it is a clash of visions. The constrained vision vs. the unconstrained vision of "the annointed."
1 posted on 07/03/2022 7:36:27 PM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: DeweyCA

Liberals, because they won’t accept the idea that God saved us, they must present their works as a substitute. So, they believe if they can create a saved world, they can present themselves before God for what they have done.

I’m coming around to the idea that when Christ said, “I never knew you.” to those who claim to have fed the poor and hungry, they may not have been lying. It’s just that operated under a spirit of self-salvation.


2 posted on 07/03/2022 7:41:57 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Are vegetarian real vegetarian burgers or just fake meat?)
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To: DeweyCA

The constitution has a way to amend it, they just don’t like it....too difficult


3 posted on 07/03/2022 7:53:30 PM PDT by dila813
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To: DeweyCA

Clashes of visions alway end up being solved in the same way. Read and heed my tagline.


4 posted on 07/03/2022 8:04:56 PM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: DeweyCA; All
Version 2 of the amendable Constitution is probably best understood as the minority subverting the will of the majority as enumerated in the Constitution.

Insights welcome.

Also, Trump's red tsunami of patriot supporters are reminded that they must vote twice this election year. Your first vote is to primary career RINO incumbents. Your second vote is to replace outgoing Democrats and RINOs with Trump-endorsed patriot candidates.

Again, insights welcome.

5 posted on 07/03/2022 8:04:58 PM PDT by Amendment10 ( )
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To: DeweyCA

It seems to me to be a clash between honest understanding and interpretation of what the Constitution actually says, and a squirrel-y dishonest one in which it says what some would prefer it said.


6 posted on 07/03/2022 8:07:09 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: DeweyCA

SUMMARY: The rule of law vs the rule of men


7 posted on 07/03/2022 8:10:07 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Contempt for pre-born human life breeds contempt for post-born human life.)
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To: DeweyCA

There Are Two Fundamentally Irreconcilable Constitutional Visions

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1 Plain Meaning Truth

2 Commie Dog Faced living breathing leg humping lie.


8 posted on 07/03/2022 8:11:04 PM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: DeweyCA

I would tighten that up to- the unconstrained vision of arbitrary power v the vision of zero arbitrary power.


9 posted on 07/03/2022 8:14:04 PM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Summary: These United States have become like a married couple who have discovered that they have irreconcilable differences.


10 posted on 07/03/2022 8:25:30 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: dila813

It isn’t that they don’t know about the amendment process or don’t like it. It really comes down to them not having the votes. The founders made sure amendments couldn’t be done by a simple majority, assuming they can even muster that without fraud.


11 posted on 07/03/2022 8:26:11 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: Jonty30

You forget religious liberals. They have accepted the idea of divine salvation, but they want to force the world to their idea of a godly world at the expense of all other ideas.


12 posted on 07/03/2022 8:28:12 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: lightman

This has become far more than irreconcilable differences, this IS the utter destruction of our country!! These people are insane the transgender crap being pushed on kids in school is way over the top!!


13 posted on 07/03/2022 8:30:21 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Spktyr

They are a fulfillment of II TIM 3:5.
They want the good things of God, but not the morality.
I haven’t forgotten them at all.


14 posted on 07/03/2022 8:31:11 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Are vegetarian real vegetarian burgers or just fake meat?)
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Except your original post doesn’t take them into account. They do not present their works as a substitute for God, but as work *endorsed* by Him. They’re actually more dangerous than the average liberal type.


15 posted on 07/03/2022 8:32:49 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: DeweyCA

the Constitution is an impediment to their socialist paradise


16 posted on 07/03/2022 8:33:31 PM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: Spktyr

I disagree.
If you don’t rely upon God, them you rely upon your efforts.
They did feed the poor, through socialism.
However, Christ will tell them that He never knew them and banish them to the hellfire.


17 posted on 07/03/2022 8:35:33 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Are vegetarian real vegetarian burgers or just fake meat?)
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To: DeweyCA

The second one is not a “Constitutional” vision at all.


18 posted on 07/03/2022 8:41:40 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: DeweyCA

Split it up. That won’t stop war from coming, but it will slow it down some. Time to split it up. It’s all falling apart anyway.


19 posted on 07/03/2022 8:42:28 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Hoes mad! LOL! )
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To: dila813

“too difficult”

And as important, too unpopular. Where there is broad consensus, the Constitution has been amended several times. When there isn’t a broad consensus, but the Ruling Class thinks their morality or their cause de jour should be imposed on everyone else without having to submit them to the legislative process, then the courts are supposed to amend the Constitution for them. That goes from Dred Scot to Roe to Chevron.


20 posted on 07/03/2022 8:46:10 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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