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The Man Most Responsible for Ending Roe Worries That It Could Hurt His Party
The New York Times ^ | June 24, 2022 | Maggie Haberman and Michael C. Bender

Posted on 06/25/2022 8:31:59 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican

The end of the landmark Roe v. Wade ruling was the culmination of decades of work by Republicans and social conservatives — one that came to pass only after a former Democrat from New York who had once supported abortion rights helped muscle through three Supreme Court justices.

Publicly, former President Donald J. Trump heralded the Supreme Court’s ruling on Friday ending federal abortion protections as a victory. Yet, as he faces possible prosecution over his efforts to subvert the 2020 election and prepares for a likely 2024 presidential campaign, Mr. Trump has privately told friends and advisers the ruling will be “bad for Republicans.”

When a draft copy of the decision leaked in May, Mr. Trump began telling friends and advisers that it would anger suburban women, a group who helped tilt the 2020 race to President Biden, and would lead to a backlash against Republicans in the November midterm elections.

In other conversations, Mr. Trump has told people that measures like the Texas state law banning most abortions after six weeks and allowing citizens to file lawsuits against people who enable abortions are “so stupid,” according to a person with direct knowledge of the discussions. The Supreme Court let the measure stand in December 2021.

For the first hours after the decision was made public on Friday, Mr. Trump was muted in response, a striking contrast to the conservatives who worked in his administration, including former Vice President Mike Pence. Mr. Pence issued a statement saying, “Life won,” as he called for abortion opponents to keep fighting “in every state in the land.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: New York; US: Texas; US: Wisconsin
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To: MinorityRepublican

Suburban women is a euphemism for leftist, hateful white women.


81 posted on 06/25/2022 9:45:35 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I DON’T BELIEVE A WORD OF THIS! The NY Times lied and activelty participated in the Trump Russia collusion hoax for two-and-a-half years. They have ZERO credibility.


82 posted on 06/25/2022 9:50:25 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: Ann Archy

Give me a break. The rabid pro aborts never vote republican and never would. The is a huge positive now that the pro life base has been energized. As for the claim regarding Trump’s comments... yeah... no. Those that he would say such explosive things to would not be talking to the NY times.


83 posted on 06/25/2022 9:51:43 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: MinorityRepublican
How to you spell, "D-I-S-I-N-F-O-R-M-A-T-I-O-N"?
84 posted on 06/25/2022 9:52:31 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: PermaRag
An example that comes to mind is when one of the supposedly respected conservative prognosticators posted on here in the summer of 2020 about something ridiculous like a “69-point enthusiasm gap” which compared enthusiasm FOR Trump to enthusiasm FOR Biden.

Yeah, I never bought this either.

"But Trump fills stadiums!" So did Ron Paul. So did Bernie Sanders.

85 posted on 06/25/2022 9:53:49 AM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Take your pick, both show abortion, like everything else for the Democrat/communists is a losing issue.

New poll: Only 15% of voters view abortion as most important mid-term election issue, economy still top concern

June 24,

The economy is still top of mind for most midterm election voters

The Supreme Court overturned the landmark abortion ruling

Roe v. Wade Friday and Democrat/communists were quick to call on voters to protect pro-choice House representatives, but a new poll shows abortion is still less crucial to voters than the economy.

A USA Today/Suffolk University poll released Friday showed just under 15% of likely voters viewed abortion as the most important election issue headed into the November midterms.

A majority of respondents, 62%, said abortion is an
important issue but not the most important one.

Just 23% of voters viewed abortion as a more important election issue than the state of the economy, which 66% said was most important to their vote, according to the poll.

The Supreme Court’s decision overturning Roe may not change

voters’ minds about voting in November, the poll suggests.

Three out of four respondents to the poll said a SCOTUS decision

…overturning Roe would have no effect on their decision to vote in the

November midterms, though 19% said it would make them more likely to head to the polls.

The poll showed a majority of Americans (61%) wanted federal
protections of abortion access as guaranteed by Roe to stay in place while 28% said they agreed it should be overturned.

But the country is more split about whether abortion should be regulated by the federal government or left to the states.

The Supreme Court’s decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health effectively leaves abortion regulations up to the states, which is what 40% of survey respondents said should happen, compared to 51% who said there should be a national abortion policy, according to the poll, which surveyed 1,000 registered voters and carried a sampling margin of error of plus or minus 3%.

With inflation at record highs and gas prices climbing, many political analysts on the right and left predict issues like

abortion, guns, voting rights and election integrity …will take a back seat to pocket book concerns.

In a Fox News poll conducted June 10-13, a random sample of American likely voters ranked abortion a distant third in priority in their decisions about whom to send to Congress.

Just 10% selected abortion as the top election issue, behind guns (12%) and way behind inflation and high prices, which 41% said was the top issue in the November midterms.

Though abortion may not be top of mind for most voters heading into…November, a majority of Americans trust Democrat/communists more than Republicans to handle the issue.

Fox News’ poll shows 50% of respondents saying

Democrat/communists “would do a better job” on abortion than Republicans (42%).

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-poll-15-percent-voters-view-abortion-most-important-election-issue-economy-top?intcmp=tw_fnc

OR

#3 Just 5% call abortion top concern

June 24,

Abortion, the No. 1 concern in today’s media and politics, ranks nearly dead last among areas voters care about as they struggle with paying daily…bills, soaring inflation, and interest rate hikes, according to a just-released survey.

While the Supreme Court’s decision overruling the 1973 Roe v. Wade right to abortion has dominated today’s network and cable coverage, the latest McLaughlin & Associates poll said just 5% of voters call it a top concern.

Just below abortion, at 1%, is reviewing the…2020 election, over which the media are also obsessing.

By comparison, 54% cited the economy.

“Only 5% said abortion was top issue.

that might change a little, but not with people who can’t afford food or

gas or rent or medical bills,” said pollster John…McLaughlin, referencing the court’s decision today.

He also told Secrets, “This was no surprise.

The decision was leaked a while ago.

Most states will not change their laws.

Biden’s handlers are desperate to change the subject from the imploding economy.”

The Occupy White House gang’s puppet Crime Boss Joey The Sniff, said today that he plans to dig into ways to continue the rights under Roe, but John and Jim McLaughlin said their data show it’s a desperation play to recover his base.

In their latest survey, just 23% of Democrat/communist primary voters said Brandon was their first pick to run in 2024.

“People are focused right now on inflation, gas, cost of living, public

…safety, and the disintegration of America,” Jim McLaughlin said.

“You know Brandon’s handlers are struggling when 77% of their primary voters are looking for somebody else.”

And while the media were suggesting that the question of abortion will help drive a bigger Democrat/communist turnout in fall elections, the

…McLaughlins said it also stands to help Republicans.

In an April survey, they found that 93% agree with this statement:

“Every human being represents a life that is precious and has value.”

John McLaughlin said, “If the Republicans stand

…on principle and defend human life, Americans are on their side.”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/just-5-call-abortion-top-issue


86 posted on 06/25/2022 9:58:23 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
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To: Drew68
Yeah, I'm not even going to pretend to predict how this will turn out for Republican gubernatorial candidates running tight races in swing states, especially after many of them will feel pressured to make promises to enact extremely restrictive statewide abortion bans.

It'll help Democrats like Governor Roy Cooper in North Carolina because they can veto any abortion bills passed by the state legislature.

87 posted on 06/25/2022 10:03:42 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

This article is a total lie and smear of Trump A disgusting push to try and annoint Pence who they know would lose.


88 posted on 06/25/2022 10:06:12 AM PDT by dforest (We have to put a stop to this now.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Some of the pro-abort protesters were chanting FJB. I actually think that many will blame Biden and the democrats for this. Also, the democrats have not delivered on all that free stuff they promised during the 2020 campaign.


89 posted on 06/25/2022 10:07:03 AM PDT by McCarthysGhost (q)
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To: MinorityRepublican

...according to a person with direct knowledge of the discussions.

The “source” is both anonymous and second-hand. It’s very likely a voice in the reporters head.


90 posted on 06/25/2022 10:07:25 AM PDT by Flick Lives
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To: MinorityRepublican

It will take years for all of this to level out and settle as to what the rule should be or not be as to abortion in certain situations like rape, incest and the life of the mother and possibly other exceptions

Under no circumstances should this be conceived that this issue has been settled it isn’t and won’t be for a long time if ever


91 posted on 06/25/2022 10:10:33 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: MinorityRepublican
There are plenty of registered R’s who are fiscally conservative, but liberal on social issues. Some of them vote D. We can’t predict how many more might vote D because of this ruling. This is an intensely emotional issue on both sides. While it may not end up creating a wave in November - it could be more than a ripple.

The SCOTUS decision will not in any way end the heated and contentious debate about abortion.

92 posted on 06/25/2022 10:10:35 AM PDT by yelostar
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To: windsorknot
If this is what really matters to people, this country isn’t worth saving.

Yes. Mark Steyn points out when the Democrats win, they are in power. When the Republicans win, they are in office. The Dems move the ball regardless of perceived short-term consequences. If the Republicans act scared because of a few points off a demographic in the next election, damning those who put them there, they are worthless. The real problem is that many of them are ashamed of us, and don't want abortion restrictions.
93 posted on 06/25/2022 10:16:07 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (What was 35% of the Rep. Party is now 85%. And it’s too late to turn back—Mac Stipanovich )
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To: MinorityRepublican

Name names or it didn’t happen.


94 posted on 06/25/2022 10:17:23 AM PDT by Savage Rider
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To: MinorityRepublican
So, who do we believe? Habeman of NY Slimes or PDJT?

“Today’s decision, which is the biggest WIN for LIFE in a generation, along with other decisions that have been announced recently, were only made possible because I delivered everything as promised, including nominating and getting three highly respected and strong Constitutionalists confirmed to the United States Supreme Court. It was my great honor to do so!

I did not cave to the Radical Left Democrats, their partners in the Fake News Media, or the RINOs who are likewise the true, but silent, enemy of the people.

These major Victories prove that even though the Radical Left is doing everything in their power to destroy our Country, your Rights are being protected, the Country is being defended, and there is still hope and time to Save America! I will never stop fighting for the Great People of our Nation!”

https://saveamerica.nucleusemail.com/amplify/v/pSr52dKErQ

95 posted on 06/25/2022 10:17:46 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: yelostar
This is an intensely emotional issue on both sides. While it may not end up creating a wave in November - it could be more than a ripple.

I'm with Trump on this. I am pragmatic when it comes to this issue. I am not intensely emotional but I can see how both sides are digging their trenches on this. To me, each state needs to figure out what works for them. 15 weeks. 30 weeks. Perhaps a total ban in Mississippi.

The SCOTUS decision will not in any way end the heated and contentious debate about abortion

It might take a couple of decades but someone will challenge and there'll be a case. Roe vs Wade will become the law of the land again.

96 posted on 06/25/2022 10:18:07 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
I can see how both sides are digging their trenches on this.

Because the most vocal extreme will drive the issue, blue states will enact unrestricted abortion access. Red states will implement total bans. Both positions are out of step with mainstream political opinion.

Of course, the media will give passes to liberal candidates while pouncing on conservative ones.

97 posted on 06/25/2022 10:23:02 AM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I think the lives of babies are WAY more important than political circumstances as a result of this Righteous ruling.

Political circumstances be damned!


98 posted on 06/25/2022 10:32:45 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: cowboyusa

Putin is pure evil.
Zelinsky’s a secret nazi.
Trump is prolife.
Trump hates prolifers.

The devil controls the media.


99 posted on 06/25/2022 10:34:41 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It ( )
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To: MinorityRepublican

President Trump has not shown a proclivity to be ambivalent in his political policy positions.

Try again!


100 posted on 06/25/2022 10:34:54 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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