Posted on 06/18/2022 3:30:33 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
military warehouses in Donbas
UAWire
Saturday, June 18
https://uawire.org/over-the-past-3-days-ukrainian-artillery-has-destroyed-7-russian-military-warehouses-in-donbas
Over the past three days, at least 7 facilities have been destroyed in the occupied Donetsk, where the Russians held significant stocks of ammunition since 2014, reported the Ukrainian website InformNapalm, citing its sources.
InformNapalm’s sources claim that the Russian warehouses were destroyed by “high-precision strikes” with 7 shots hitting 7 targets.
“The destroyed ammunition depot in the occupied Khrustalnyi (Krasny Luch) alone had up to 1 thousand tons of ammunition,” InformNapalm specifies.
According to InformNapalm , the Russian troops are trying to “diminish the successes of the Ukrainian Armed Forces” by shooting at the city center with smaller caliber artillery in order to instill fear in the local population and stop rumors about the high accuracy strikes of the Ukrainian Forces on ammunition depots.
“A range of testimonies of various insiders gives us a rough idea of the situation there and inspires cautious optimism that high-precision weapons started working on the front lines. Using them the Ukrainian army reduces combat capabilities of the Russian army and cuts off the offensive potential of the Russians in the Donbas,” the journalists explain.
[So the answer is “no,” then. Thought so. ]
All I’ve admitted, based on known facts, is that Burisma was used as a means of peddling influence by corrupt Ukrainians with corrupt American officials.
You’re the first one I’ve ever seen allege that Biden was actually using Burisma to help Putin conquer Ukraine.
Is the EU or anyone else providing the equivalent billions we are? Asking for a friend...
From a couple of days ago, but it shows how the Russians invade countries before and after military invasions.
Ukrainian owned homes
UAWire
June 16, 2022
https://uawire.org/kyiv-russian-troops-bring-their-families-to-kherson-settling-them-in-ukrainian-owned-homes
Ukrainian Deputy Defense Minister Hanna Malyar said that Russia began bringing families of its military to the temporarily occupied regions of Ukraine, in particular, the Kherson region. These families are being settled in the houses belonging to Ukrainians.
“Russia has stepped up the process of bringing the families of the Russian occupation troops to the Ukrainian settlements captured by the Russian aggressor, specifically Kherson. Newly arrived so-called Russian migrants have been arbitrarily settled in the abandoned houses and apartments of Ukrainian citizens who have left to save their lives after the beginning of Russia’s large-scale invasion,” Malyar said at a briefing.
She also noted that the Russian troops still want to hold a so-called “referendum” to include the region to Russia, but they will not be able to achieve this, because the population in the occupied territories puts up a fierce resistance.
Earlier, the Russia installed mayor of Kherson, Kirill Stremousov, said that the Russian citizenship will be given to all children of the region who were born after February 24, including orphans.
[“The destroyed ammunition depot in the occupied Khrustalnyi (Krasny Luch) alone had up to 1 thousand tons of ammunition,” InformNapalm specifies.]
https://encyclopedia.1914-1918-online.net/article/artillery
That’s 150,000 rounds a day. So, even with the economic capacity and manufacturing capabilities of WWI, it was possible to sustainably expend 50,000 howitzer rounds a day.
Because Ukraine in 2022 is akin to Czechoslovakia in 1938. You let Putin get away with it today and you will have a mosre costly war in terms of blood and money tomorrow. Rather let Ukraine defend itself today so American and allied soldiers don’t die tomorrow
[All I’ve admitted, based on known facts, is that Burisma was used as a means of peddling influence by corrupt Ukrainians with corrupt American officials.
You’re the first one I’ve ever seen allege that Biden was actually using Burisma to help Putin conquer Ukraine.]
As to why Zlochevsky sought refuge in Cyprus instead of Russia - the weather in Cyprus is a tad better. And Zlochevsky’s not the man who ordered the massacre at Maidan Square.
There are on and off warrants filed by Ukraine with Interpol for Yanukovich’s arrest outside Russia. Ukraine only has to arrest Yanukovich once, and he’ll never see daylight again. That’s why he ran to Russia.
Zlochevsky’s a more peripheral player in the butchery. Maybe he played an indirect role, but as courtier rather than king, he’s unlikely to be in as much legal jeopardy from Ukraine’s government. But he fled anyway from a government that asserted Ukraine’s national interests over Russia’s, which may say something about his allegiances.
You are so full of it. The democrats have been after Putin for years now.
Nice try though.
This is their new tactic. They have absolutely nothing to prove this fairytale that Biden and Putin are buddies.
[You’re the first one I’ve ever seen allege that Biden was actually using Burisma to help Putin conquer Ukraine.]
I don’t necessarily think Biden is literally a traitor. He’s just a Democrat being a Democrat. Excessive timidity in foreign policy is just part of the Democrat package. It’s what they do. AFAIK, Obama took no money from Putin. But he denied Javelins to Ukraine anyway.
Biden would have done the same thing, if not for the threat of impending invasion. He actually delayed shipment for 6 months. And stopped sanctioning NordStream 2. But now that Russia has actually invaded, Biden is stuck between a rock and a hard place. If Ukraine loses, he’ll be remembered as the president who lost Afghanistan and Ukraine. And Taiwan looms. If Ukraine falls, China will get the message and invade Taiwan. So Biden will get credit for losing three countries on his watch.
He shouldn’t have taken Putin’s money. It would have saved him another hit to his reputation. But he never thought in a million years he’d be president. Or that Putin would launch a full-scale invasion.
Thanks. I was thinking that the bridge was from Crimea to the rest of Ukraine. I didn’t know there was a bridge over the entrance to the Sea of Azov.
Crimea is legally part of Ukraine.
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Possession is 9/10ths of law. The Ukies are toast, any grand deluded schemes is not reality. The Donbass and Crimea is Vlads, just hope Vlad doesn’t decide to eat Odessa after the Donbass.
The corrupted beggar Zelensky needs to get negotiating, even the EU is murmuring for his ouster. Much much more the western MSM is not reporting, the West is suffering greatly from Vlads reverse sanctions, they have had enough.
Poland's eastern border is Ukraine's western one.
No, They just use Putin and Russia the way they use Racism to label their opponents. It didn’t stop Hunter Biden from taking money from the Russians.
It's a fairytale if your historical understanding of the relationship between Russia and the Democrats only goes back 2 or 3 years. Considering most Putinists on this website don't seem to be aware (or maybe they don't care) of Russia's alliance and material support of such countries as North Korea and Iran, they don't seem to have a strong grasp of historical events beyond the current election cycle.
I have literally never argued that. Believe it or not, corrupt people can mutually profit from each other without national defense entering the picture.
That’s not what I said. I said Putin gave Biden a bribe through Burisma back when he was VP. It was a chit, a marker, to be collected on via future favors rendered.
And you've already admitted that this is a claim which you have no evidence for.
During all of the hubbub related to Burisma in the 2020 election, was there ever any evidence on Hunter Biden's laptop that Putin was using Burisma as a proxy to enrich Biden? Or was it all a matter of corrupt Ukrainians and corrupt Americans using each other to profit through illicit means?
You're the one claiming (uniquely, as far as I'm aware) that Putin was the one actually using Burisma to buy influence with Joe Biden. Given that Hunter Biden was working with Burisma from April 2014 through 2019 (i.e. after the pro-Russian administration of Yanukovych had been ousted), this claim seems farfetched and lacking in substantiation compared to what's already known: corrupt Bidens using corrupt Ukrainians to get richer.
You should be at home having your Kotleti by now.
Ukraine ping
Ultra Sonic 007:[You’re the one claiming (uniquely, as far as I’m aware) that Putin was the one actually using Burisma to buy influence with Joe Biden. Given that Hunter Biden was working with Burisma from April 2014 through 2019 (i.e. after the pro-Russian administration of Yanukovych had been ousted), this claim seems farfetched and lacking in substantiation compared to what’s already known: corrupt Bidens using corrupt Ukrainians to get richer. ]
What reason did Zlochevsky have to pay Biden on his own initiative? Burisma’s operations don’t involve anything in the US. Whereas Putin had plenty of reasons to bribe Biden. Note that Putin paid Hillary $500K through Russian oligarchs, so it’s not like bribing American bigwigs is a foreign concept to him:
The media hasn’t looked into the possibility of Burisma being a conduit for Putin’s bribes for the same reason it hasn’t looked into Burisma - with a few exceptions, the media is just the propaganda wing of the Democrat party. All the New York Post has done is highlight the Hunter Biden - Burisma connection based on e-mails from the hard drive left at the computer repair store. It has done no further investigation because that takes serious resources. In fact, everything it has done on Biden is related to scouring the hard drive for further salacious materials.
Investigating corruption is hard difficult work that requires significant amounts of resources and perhaps the power to compel corporations to give up information. That’s not within the capabilities of a newspaper. In fact, I can’t think of a single time a newspaper broke a story that required more than interviewing a leaker. No one’s going to leak on Putin without a generous relocation and witness protection package. People who do that get killed - along with their families.
If Trump gets a second term, the DOJ might slip back into his control. And an investigation into why Zlochevsky was really paying Biden off might get off the ground. But if he hires another series of worthless AG’s like the ones he got throughout his first term, we will never get to the bottom of this.
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