When The Lies Come Home (Ukraine)

The American Conservative ^ | June 17, 2022 | Douglas Macgregor

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

And some people are simply big fans of unrepentant communist gangsters.

Take the L, Lurker.

[minnesota_bound]

#27 The Russians are hardly feeling the sanctions.

They now have a new and improved version of McDonald’s.

The American fast-food giant has been renamed “Vkusno & Tochka,” which translates to “Tasty and that’s it.”
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/12/business-food/mcdonalds-restaurant-replacement-russia-ukraine-intl/index.html

[achilles2000]

Believe it or not, on my many trips to Beijing, McDonalds was often the safest place to eat.

[minnesota_bound]

The “hamburgers” in China are made from dissidents..... : )

[achilles2000]

No wonder they tasted a little different...I’ve always wondered about the “Uighur sauce” packets they handed out.

[DoughtyOne]

I pity the day when the U. S. gets attacked, because I see a
lot of brain-trusts who favor surrender.

I’ve watched as folks surrendered by leaving California.

I read posts not all that infrequently how folks think we
should split the nation in half, just surrender those blue
states.

I see others suggest that we should have some states
declare their own sovereignty.

Why the Ukraine too. If you get attacked, and you fight
back, it’s because you love war. Don’t get the idea it’s
self-defense you fools, it’s just a love of war.

Gosh, people knew from day one the Ukraine was going to
lose. A lot of people would have said the same thing
of the Revolutionary War. “Eh, I knew they were going
to lose.”

Russia is not winning this war folks. The price they have
paid for absolutely no good cause, and the death and
disruption to their own citizens, not to mention civilian
deaths and millions of refugees, nobody has won here.

All these sages who knew the Ukraine was going to lose from
the beginning, just couldn’t work up the concern to care
about what else was going to happen.

Why it’s a huge sin the Ukraine’s leader didn’t surrender
on day one to stop all the bloodshed.

He didn’t go marching across Russia’s international border.

Russia did. Every death has resulted from Russian’s
actions, not the Ukraine’s.

Duh!

Why don’t some of you brain-trusts send a message back
to Russia, that all these deaths are their fault, and
you wish they would return to their side of the border.

[CodeToad]

“Please imagine the U.S. Govt of 2022 building a Military Cathedral. It would be dedicated to LGBTQIA+ “Pride.” (The + is for Pedophilia.)”

Isn’t that was it currently happening at the USASFA cathedral during its reconstruction?

[Destroyer Sailor]

No the real truth is that Ukraine will remain free and independent .

[sauropod]

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[ronnie raygun]

The objective was always the AMERICAN TAXPAYER MONEY LAUNDERING OPPORTUNITY WITH THE UKRAINE, not the Ukraine, not its people, not Russia just a quick and easy way to swindle the American taxpayer and enrich themselves some GOP included, period

[bert]

Early on, I posted a piece that listed Putin’s objectives as being the two sepratist regions. It did not mention Ukraine in total.

It would seem that the two noted objectives have been secured and the troops holding the areas least include indiginous sepratists.

The war is approaching or has achieved the condition of stalemate. Russia can’t advance and Ukraine lacks the ability to recapture any of the lost territory. Any inludes Crimea.

Putin has begun to whine about sanctions and the harsh treatment from the west. Russia though gaining the territory has lost the war.

[Sirius Lee]

I suppose you think the fact that Kiev is still run by the Ukrainian government is just part of Russia’s brilliant war strategy?

Yup. The Uke speaking Ukes are still run by Zel the clown and the CIA that put him there. And America is still run by dopey Joe and the deep state. Mafia thug pooter looks at the situation and thinks to himself, "why interfere in their own self destruction?"

Meanwhile, rightly or wrongly (wrongly) the russian mafia now owns the russian speaking part of Ukraine. (formerly Soviet Union, formerly Russia, Formerly split up amongst the Cossacks, Ukrainoslavs, Kherson and Talrida, formerly the area of Polovetzians, formerly Khazaria, formerly Scythia...)

Anybody who thinks there was and is some magical point at which the worlds nations and borders have become fixed and immutable is deluding themselves.

Territory belongs to whomever will settle it, colonize it, outbreed the others on it, fight and kill to keep it, or fight and kill to take it. The S.W. of the U.S. is rapidly becoming North Mexico and not a shot was fired. Minnesota may very well become the 58th islamic state within the next 100 years.

Or there may be no more borders at all. The entire globe might be NeuSchwabland for a time. That's got to make one feel good about the lives of their grandchildren, right?.

[Monterrosa-24]

You don’t seem to realize that the Russians spend big bucks producing fake news, interviews, and events. You are sooooo naive. You are supporting the crushing of a great people because you buy into Moscow’s version of events.
Russia invaded and has committed nothing but crimes since 2014 and before that against the innocent Republic of Georgia. And just what do you think of renaming Liberty Square? You like supporting those who name plazas after Lenin? You like supporting those who use Muslim troops who rape pre-pubescent boys. Have you ever been to the Donbas? What is your interest in supporting Russian crimes? Are paid or are you just gullable?

[Destroyer Sailor]

There will be no winner. The Russians will gain the east that they seek . They will retain what they took in 2014. Ukraine will not be able to take back what they lost but will retain their independence and the support of the EU and NATO. What the future holds is unknown.

[rmlew]

Douglas MacGregor live-action role plays as an opponent of China, while constantly shilling for its allies Russia and Iran. Is this senility or bribery?

[piasa]

...Macgregor was the top planner for General Wesley Clark, the military commander of NATO, for the attack on Yugoslavia....

[dennisw]

“Douglas MacGregor live-action role plays as an opponent of China, while constantly shilling for its allies Russia and Iran. Is this senility or bribery?”

All I know is, he has an authoritative voice and presents well on the boob tube. He is on Fox news a lot and Tucker. ____ Slava Ukraini!

[piasa]

...Macgregor was the top planner for General Wesley Clark, the military commander of NATO, for the attack on Yugoslavia....

[mad_as_he$$]

Hummmm... Weasley Clark.

[rmlew]

...Macgregor was the top planner for General Wesley Clark, the military commander of NATO, for the attack on Yugoslavia....
That's not a logical response. His record doens't change what he is doing. Benedict Arnold did far more for this country than MacGregor could in a dozen lifetimes. He was still a traitor.