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When The Lies Come Home (Ukraine)
The American Conservative ^ | June 17, 2022 | Douglas Macgregor

Posted on 06/18/2022 2:55:12 PM PDT by Fido969

After lying for months, the media are preparing the public for Ukraine’s military collapse.

(Excerpt) Read more at theamericanconservative.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 10percent4dabigguy; 12percent4dabigguy; 202206; alloverbutthecrying; anotherneoconfail; bidenacommie; disgoanbegud; douglasmacgregor; kosovo; macgregor; mediabias; putin; russia; serbia; thecatsontheroof; ukraine; wesleyclark
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Many at FR saw right away through the MSM lies and phoney patriotism Biden was hiding behind. The SOTU address this year was shameful.

Add to Afghanistan another Biden international disaster.

1 posted on 06/18/2022 2:55:12 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: Fido969
Wink: Well Johnny what do we have for our second place contestant?
Johnny: For Mr Volodymyr we have 3.5 Billion US dollars a clean escape and a safe house paid for by the American taxpayers
2 posted on 06/18/2022 2:59:24 PM PDT by The Louiswu (We couldn't 'afford' $4 billion for Trump's wall at the southern border?)
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To: Fido969

But wait… I thought Russia was so manpower drained that they were going to mobilize their grannies (at least those capable of using walkers.🙀🙀🤷‍♂️


3 posted on 06/18/2022 3:01:56 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX!)
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To: Fido969

Mark top⁴


4 posted on 06/18/2022 3:01:56 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Fido969

“Many at FR saw right away through the MSM lies and phoney patriotism Biden was hiding behind.”

Pretty much everyone here knows the truth (Nazi history and all), though, in a few cases, they have special interests regarding Ukraine (live nearby, know people there, perhaps financial interests, etc.), so they only appear to be dupes of the Western Media when shilling for Ukraine.


5 posted on 06/18/2022 3:03:51 PM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: House Atreides

I suppose you think the fact that Kiev is still run by the Ukrainian government is just part of Russia’s brilliant war strategy?


6 posted on 06/18/2022 3:03:51 PM PDT by ruiner
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To: Fido969

No lies. The front changed from the earlier one where the Russians were at a disadvantage. The current battlefield is much further east and gives the Russians a much shorter supply line. The Ukrainian military is still making the Russians pay for everything they are taking. The whole conflict has shown how incompetent the Russian military really is.


7 posted on 06/18/2022 3:05:00 PM PDT by Destroyer Sailor (Revenge is a dish best served cold.)
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8 posted on 06/18/2022 3:06:34 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: BobL

And some people are simply big fans of unrepentant communist gangsters.

L


9 posted on 06/18/2022 3:06:37 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Travis McGee

Link to above.

https://twitter.com/sethharpesq/status/1538265828134887424


10 posted on 06/18/2022 3:06:55 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Fido969

Yep, from almost day 1 the emotional manipulation by the government and media was obvious. Yet people, again, fell hook, line, and sinker for Covid-like hysteria, part 2, complete with the, “If you don’t support Ukraine, you are evil.”

I believe there was a very strong chance all this could have been completely avoided, but Biden, neocons, etc. goaded Russia. To this day I have never heard of any serious efforts to seek a diplomatic solution, especially among Democrats. That’s odd, isn’t it? And yeah, the poor massacred Ukrainians and conscripted soldiers. Once again, mere canon fodder for political ends.


11 posted on 06/18/2022 3:06:59 PM PDT by Obadiah (DeSantis 2024)
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To: Travis McGee

Wow. Sobering. Thanks for posting.


12 posted on 06/18/2022 3:09:40 PM PDT by Obadiah (DeSantis 2024)
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To: Fido969

1.) The Jimmy Dore Show, 6/11/22

Ukraine Should Admit Defeat NOW! Says Top U.S Military Leader

https://youtu.be/A9bnFWmHggk

2.) Ukraine forces outgunned up to 40 to one by Russian forces, intelligence report reveals (6/9/22)

https://news.yahoo.com/intelligence-report-reveals-ukraine-forces-174236886.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

3.) Ukraine is running out of ammunition as prospects dim on the battlefield (6/12/22)

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4070605/posts

4.) Cases of desertion are growing among Ukrainian forces suffering significant losses in Russia’s artillery onslaught, report says (6/11/22)

https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-troops-deserting-russias-artillery-onslaught-takes-toll-report-says-2022-6

5.) ‘They’re Wiping Us From Earth’: Evading Russian Artillery With a Ukrainian Military Unit (6/12/22)

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/ukrainian-military-unit-russia-artillery-1365021/


13 posted on 06/18/2022 3:11:16 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: Fido969

Complete Bovine Feces.


14 posted on 06/18/2022 3:11:50 PM PDT by Reaganez
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To: Fido969

The cause was unjust from the get go. They should not win anything and they won’t.


15 posted on 06/18/2022 3:13:07 PM PDT by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: Fido969

We lost 85 billion worth of armaments to the Taliban in Afghanistan - but THANK GOD the Swampers were able to make sure that a large portion of the 40 billion for Ukraine made it safely into their accounts in the Caymans.


16 posted on 06/18/2022 3:14:16 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Lurker

Your “Communist gangsters” are building churches across Russia. Thousands of them. No “drag your kid to pedo grooming!” festivals in Russia. No “transition your 5 year olds,” with sterilizing hormone blockers and mutilation surgery as teenagers. That sickness is in the USA, not Russia.

I too grew up as a cold warrior fighting the godless Soviet atheists. Yuri Bezmenov was 100% correct, but the change worked in both ways. We were Communized, they were anti-communized and are on the way to being Christianized. Remember our prayers for the conversion of Russia? They worked. So did the Soviet Communist poison, on us.

Please imagine the U.S. Govt of 2022 building a Military Cathedral. It would be dedicated to LGBTQIA+ “Pride.” (The + is for Pedophilia.)

Russian Military Cathedral

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KOCkjEjFhw&ab_channel=OrthodoxShahada


17 posted on 06/18/2022 3:14:43 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
It would be dedicated to LGBTQIA+ “Pride.” (The + is for Pedophilia.)

New dedication: to LGBTQIAD+ “Pride.” (The + is for Pedophilia, and the D is for Disney.)

18 posted on 06/18/2022 3:20:24 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Lurker

Please compare and contrast these 2 recruiting videos. I say this as a boomer, class of 1957, lifelong cold warrior.

Spetsnaz Song – Russian Special Forces

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su00rJ5kqCw&ab_channel=MilitaryReport

US Army recruiting video:

Raised by two loving and inspiring mothers, Emma excelled in school. But as a college student, she realized the challenge she truly sought ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIYGFSONKbk&ab_channel=GoArmy


19 posted on 06/18/2022 3:20:49 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Fido969

The Ukrainians clearly put up a good, but highly exaggerated, fight; but the USA still should not have been in it:

1. The Ukrainians and their one-world supporters, except for some Republicans who think we are still in a cold war with the USSR, are no more friendly to what made America great than Putin. Biden is actually worse.

2. We created a new alliance between Russia and China.

3. The $100 billion we are spending could be better spent here.


20 posted on 06/18/2022 3:30:08 PM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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