Posted on 06/12/2022 4:46:31 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
New report finds Shroud of Turin dates back to the era of the earthly ministry of Jesus, contradicting 1988 evidence dating cloth as being centuries newer.
New scientific procedures says fabric in the shroud is about 2,000 years old.
The study also analyzed traces of pollen on the shroud.
“The pollen samples gathered are from plants that are native to not just the Middle East, but specifically the area around Judea, Palestine, and Syria within that time period,” said Brian Hyland, curator at Museum of the Bible.
“There’s also pollen from the area around Constantinople. There’s a lot of pollen from Europe,” suggesting the shroud traveled from the Holy Land through [now Turkey and France] to its current home in Italy since the 16th century.
“The only single sample they took did not represent anywhere else on the cloth because it had been manipulated,” said Barrie Schwortz.
Schwortz, who is Jewish, pushed back on claims the shroud was a creation of Leonardo DaVinci.
“The Shroud has been publicly shown 100 years before da Vinci was born. He was a good artist, but he wasn’t that good.”
Schwortz said that until he saw the shroud, he was “biased against it.”
“I even said, somewhere along the line to somebody that, you know, we’ll get to Turin, we’ll give it five minutes, we’ll find the paint, we’ll come home, we’ll be done.”
There is no paint on the cloth, however.
British David Rolfe new film, “Who Can He Be,” said his team produced a 3D image from data from the fabric. “The only way that the image could’ve got on to that cloth is a miraculous one. A miracle that emanated from the body with unbelievable amounts of energy but within an infinitesimally short space of time.”
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Dont act dumb. Everyone can see it.
And not by coincidence, Jesus had his hands strategically placed so that the energy of the resurrection would not leave a graphic image of his private parts on the negative of the burial shroud...He was quite modest!
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Thank you, Doctor, for bringing that to everyone’s attention!
It shows the travel history as well as the earliest dating possible.
I do NOT need it, but having such a proof is awesome. It hurts nothing.
The shroud is flattened to two dimensions. It would have been wrapped in three dimensions. Distortion would be expected.
Why not? What is your problem with it?
I agree with you 1000%.
But I truly believe that it IS Jesus.
But so what, if it isn’t..
And that makes it 2000 years old?
No, the Shroud cloth has been carbon dated to that time period.
So why does that automatically prove the Shroud is false?
(Your argument begins to resemble the Babel Fish in the science fiction novel The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy.)
Try suggesting that some of your fellow posters adopt that attitude.
It is much more unifying and uplifting for all involved.
God’s receipt for the resurrection.
I never said it was false; you have.
I find it intriguing, but not anywhere near my Faith without it.
I’m not in a mood today to suffer fools.
Not NEW. I already knew all this.
NO DOUBT, This IS the burial cloth of Jesus Christ and imprinted by His glory as He resurrected through it.
Yes. I am glad they did recognize it. Only technology revealed what they already knew.
Sorry, evidence requires provenance and chain of custody.
There is no way to prove it is the very cloth that hat wrapped the body of Christ. That said, it otherwise could be authentic, just not proveable.
I’ll love k at it with interest as a scientist and a believer, but it, fragments of the cross, the spear thrust, the cup etc.have no relevance to my faith in the Son of God, my Savior.
The shroud isnt important as to why I believe. Christ is. Do you not read what people write?
Are you you being obtuse, or are you trying to pick fights?
...or both?
He was not the modest one. It would have been Joseph of Aremathea and others who assisted with the burial. Was probably common practice.
I have studied many things about the shroud. I have found that it is assuredly the burial clothes of Jesus Christ.
SCIENCE PROVES IT!
I am totally convinced and will not even consider any more FAKE evidence from people such as yourself. I’ve heard it all and debunked every lie.
So will I read at the website you listed? Just a minute, I have to go outside and look at the sky to see if pigs are flying.
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