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California archbishops abandon their flock — to play culture politics
The Hill ^ | 5-29-22 | BY JOE FERULLO

Posted on 05/29/2022 3:05:12 PM PDT by artichokegrower

California may be the bluest state in the nation, but it now finds itself home to two of the most powerful and disruptive voices on the right. Those disruptors are a pair of conservative Catholic archbishops from distinctly liberal San Francisco and Los Angeles: Salvatore Cordileone and Jose Gomez. They may be out-of-step with the people in their pews, but that hasn’t prevented them from making headlines by diving into politics and the culture wars.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California; US: Wisconsin
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Just think if the Catholic bishops had stood up against public opinion I’m Germany in the 1930s
1 posted on 05/29/2022 3:05:12 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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but that hasn’t prevented them from making headlines by diving into politics and the culture wars.

No, they're just getting back to being Catholic. And I'm old enough to remember when the Pope was Catholic.

2 posted on 05/29/2022 3:07:55 PM PDT by libertylover (Our BIGGEST problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: artichokegrower

Friendship with the Lord is enmity towards progressivism.

... is a logical take on the more familiar form of the phrase from Scripture.


3 posted on 05/29/2022 3:08:51 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: artichokegrower

A Catholic Bishop has no business aiming to be “in step” with the people in his diocese. The Church is not a corporation needing to please a customer base.


4 posted on 05/29/2022 3:11:04 PM PDT by arthurus (| covfefe >"<)
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To: artichokegrower

“ They may be out-of-step with the people in their pews”

The hill is out of step on at least two accounts here

One, they think the Catholic Church is a democracy. It is not. Never will be

Two the people in the pews? Or the people who subscribe to liberal publications like the hill who say they are Catholic or people who attend mass regularly. They are not the same


5 posted on 05/29/2022 3:12:45 PM PDT by stanne
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To: artichokegrower

“They may be out-of-step with the people in their pews...”


That’s funny, I was under the impression that an archbishop was, I don’t know, sort of the leader of his flock. I’d think that if anyone is ‘out-of-step’ it would be the people in the pews.

I confess I’m not a theologian like Whoopi Goldberg (not your job, dude) but I wasn’t aware that church leaders are supposed to follow mores of their parishioners rather than lead them to what the Church teaches.


6 posted on 05/29/2022 3:17:39 PM PDT by hanamizu
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Priests need to make a bigger deal about stuff like abortion in their homilies during mass. Nancy maybe this issue a public scandal not the archbishop.


7 posted on 05/29/2022 3:21:29 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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To: colonelzanders

Welcome to free republic.


9 posted on 05/29/2022 3:42:00 PM PDT by proust (All posts made under this handle are, for the intents and purposes of the author, considered satire.)
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To: libertylover

AMEN!!!! Bring Back BENEDICT!!!!


10 posted on 05/29/2022 3:43:13 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: artichokegrower

Why doesn’t “The Hill” just change their name to “The Democrat” and be done with it?


11 posted on 05/29/2022 4:01:34 PM PDT by Skywise
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Good comment!

As for the “culture wars” nonsense, it is clear that the Dem Party sees “culture” as just the leftist zeitgeist of the moment, and nothing to do with ethics or morality.

Fortunately, the Archbishop sees that it has everything to do with ethics and morality.


12 posted on 05/29/2022 4:31:16 PM PDT by livius
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To: artichokegrower

“Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock. And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was the fall of it.”


13 posted on 05/29/2022 4:37:26 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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The catholic church was targeted for destruction decades ago and has been infiltrated by leftists at all levels from pedophile priests all the way to the pope


14 posted on 05/29/2022 4:46:54 PM PDT by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imagination)
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The problem with Pelosi and Biden and any other political “catholic” who professes the faith and manifestly ignores its dogma is they have the power to influence and pass laws contrary to Catholicism.

Joe-in-the-Pew may agree with her and back abortion, and while Joe is wrong, he has no power.

She does.

Saying abortion and the death penalty are akin is specious and an exercise in mendacity.


15 posted on 05/29/2022 5:02:14 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: artichokegrower

This may be the dumbest thing ever written on The Hill. No wonder they don’t permit comments.


16 posted on 05/29/2022 5:02:34 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Truth is hate speech to those who hate the truth.)
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To: artichokegrower

The Hill is a left wing rag.


17 posted on 05/29/2022 5:26:23 PM PDT by Pearfect
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To: artichokegrower

Few people have less respect for the RomoChurch than I do. I am also pro-choice. But I will absolutely defend their right in a free society to advocate their views on abortion and enforce loyalty from their congregants. If that’s too tough for Pelosi and Biden, let them become Unitarians.


18 posted on 05/29/2022 5:28:09 PM PDT by georgecorgi
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To: artichokegrower

Abandoning their flock?

They have abandoned their flock for decades out there, this is finally the first step in trying to recover the flock that was left to wander aimlessly off their path!!!


19 posted on 05/29/2022 5:34:43 PM PDT by bantam
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...

20 posted on 05/29/2022 6:11:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The Demagogic Party is a collection of violent, rival street gangs.)
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