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New York court halts family DNA searches for crime suspects
The Associated Press ^ | May 6, 2022 | By MICHAEL R. SISAK

Posted on 05/06/2022 1:57:51 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

NEW YORK (AP) — A New York court halted the use of a DNA crimefighting tool that has helped crack cold cases and put murderers behind bars, but has also raised privacy and racial discrimination concerns, because state lawmakers never approved the practice.

Known as familial DNA searching, the technique allows law enforcement agencies to search the state’s DNA databank for close biological relatives of people who have left traces of genetic material at a crime scene.

A panel of judges on a mid-level appeals court ruled Thursday that regulations for the technique were invalid because a state committee implemented them without consent from the Legislature.

Three of the panel’s five members voted to suspend the searches, which were challenged by a group of Black men who worried they could be targeted for investigation because their biological brothers were convicted of crimes and had genetic information stored in the state’s DNA databank.

Judge Judith J. Gische, writing for the majority, noted that familial DNA searching is useful in investigating crimes — including in identifying serial killers in Kansas and California and a recent Bronx cold case arrest — and that the court’s decision to stop the practice was based on concerns about government separation of powers.

The Legal Aid Society, a non-profit organization representing indigent defendants in New York City, sued the state February 2018, arguing that the Division of Criminal Justice Services had no authority to unilaterally expand use of the DNA databank.

The suit raised concerns that innocent people could be ensnared in a criminal investigation “based solely on their genetic kinship with convicted individuals.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bidenvoters; defundthepolice; dna; ericadams; felonreleaseprogram; helixmakemineadouble; newyork; newyorkcity
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1 posted on 05/06/2022 1:57:51 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
racial discrimination concerns

Too many black criminals being arrested?
2 posted on 05/06/2022 1:59:57 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Although this technology has been used to crack cold cases, I am against this practice. Giving government busy bodies troves of data play with always ends in abuse of power.


3 posted on 05/06/2022 2:01:16 PM PDT by 31R1O
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
IIRC when someone puts their trash out for collection they are considered to have legally renounced their ownership of the contents and,having done so,the police can take the contents without any kind of warrant.

IMO when one submits their DNA to a public service like "Ancestry DNA" they have relinquished their ownership rights and anyone,including police,can search it.

4 posted on 05/06/2022 2:04:10 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Ballots)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

That is going to mess with a bunch of TV crime drama plots.


5 posted on 05/06/2022 2:06:59 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: 31R1O

“Although this technology has been used to crack cold cases, I am against this practice. Giving government busy bodies troves of data play with always ends in abuse of power.”

Absolutely correct.

The letters have proven that they cannot be trusted.

“You have zero privacy anyway…Get over it!”

I have never used one his products since then, however I now concede he was correct, much to my dismay


6 posted on 05/06/2022 2:08:38 PM PDT by algore
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To: 31R1O

they can search me DNA any time they wish! I have nothing to hide and am glad they are catching murderers who for too long have gotten away with it!

All they will find DNA on in my life is the seat of my couch, my office chair, keyboard, bed, and TV remote ! ;)


7 posted on 05/06/2022 2:08:40 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“racial discrimination concerns”

Of course. What’s a day without racial discrimination concerns?


8 posted on 05/06/2022 2:09:33 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: 31R1O

“Giving government busy bodies troves of data play with always ends in abuse of power.”

They ALWAYS abuse whatever power they have. They can’t help themselves.


9 posted on 05/06/2022 2:10:51 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: 31R1O

“I am against this practice.”

I’m ok with it ONLY if the databases they’re searching are of convicted criminals. Searching all available databases, including those genealogy records like “23 And Me” ... I’m definitely against that.


10 posted on 05/06/2022 2:15:26 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty. Excellent. )
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To: Gay State Conservative

Yeah, but the DNA is leading to people who didn’t volunteer a sample.

They check databases and uncover people related to the person who committed the crime, then that dramatically narrows their suspect pool. I can see good and bad in it.


11 posted on 05/06/2022 2:16:03 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Yes, I’d have no problem with that either.


12 posted on 05/06/2022 2:17:04 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Metal drums in deep water leave no DNA except for the victim, I’ve always said.


13 posted on 05/06/2022 2:17:23 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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To: Gay State Conservative

IRC when someone puts their trash out for collection they are considered to have legally renounced their ownership of the contents and,having done so,the police can take the contents without any kind of warrant.
IMO when one submits their DNA to a public service like “Ancestry DNA” they have relinquished their ownership rights and anyone,including police,can search it.

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first thought Perhaps the trash issue is wrong.

Second, Why isnt the DNA company an extension of my home instead of an extension of the public


14 posted on 05/06/2022 2:18:34 PM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Either the judges don’t understand science or they lie to kiss up to Blacks.

Nobody is going to be arrested on a partial DNA match. A 50% match means that somebody’s brother may have done the crime. It doesn’t mean they arrest the innocent brother. The perps who were caught were 100% matches. It just took the database to help track them down.

This is the equivalent of ruling out video evidence because the video includes innocent people.


15 posted on 05/06/2022 2:18:44 PM PDT by KingofZion
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To: 31R1O; Oldeconomybuyer

“Although this technology has been used to crack cold cases, I am against this practice. Giving government busy bodies troves of data play with always ends in abuse of power.”


This.

All that we’ve been dealing with is government abusing power on all levels for decades, and it is getting worse. I would LOVE to see a Supreme Court decision that this practice violates the 4th Amendment.


16 posted on 05/06/2022 2:19:19 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Chickensoup

It’s all in the fine print.
And there’s a lot of fine print.


17 posted on 05/06/2022 2:19:28 PM PDT by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Why does the government have a DNA databank? Oh wait, because it’s the government.


18 posted on 05/06/2022 2:23:16 PM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I have to say it’s super creepy they do this.

If I ran a ancestry DNA site I’d make the whole thing double blind and unsearchable like this.


19 posted on 05/06/2022 2:26:10 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: 31R1O

I use my DNA results daily from the major ancestor program to identify or to affirm new relatives.

In a couple of months, I will surpass 30,000 so called documented relatives.

As the 1950 census is slowly being released! About 2x a week for the past 8 weeks, I get a supposed DNA surname hit not listed on or via any of the above 30 K relatives.

I/we/my/our family members had never heard/known about these people until we were told that they were showing up on the 1950 census. Often, they have surnames, which we have never heard of nor have in those close to 30K so called documented relatives or with other relatives. Some are supposedly 1st-3rd cousins.

Often, these new surnames are complete surprises/unknowns with my family and our families in the Ancestor site.


20 posted on 05/06/2022 2:27:05 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Anyone, who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.!" ~ (Voltaire)!!)
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