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'Are we fighting a war or masturbating?' Russia's military ‘is furious that Putin has down-scaled Ukraine invasion to focus on Donbas and is calling for all-out WAR’
Daily Mail ^ | 4.27.2022 | Adam Solomons

Posted on 04/27/2022 8:13:15 AM PDT by libh8er

The Russian military is furious that Putin has downsized the invasion of Ukraine and called for a new escalation of the conflict.

As the Kremlin's war effort stumbles against a dogged Ukrainian resistance, leading figures in the Red Army have reportedly begged Putin to take the country for good.

Military and pro-war Telegram channels are now flooded with calls to commit greater resources to Ukraine and 'fight NATO', according to Russian news agency Agenta.

Special forces veteran Alexander Arutyunov pleaded with Putin to upscale the invasion in a viral post, asking: 'Vladimir Vladimirovich, are we fighting a war or masturbating?' Special forces veteran Alexander Arutyunov pleaded with Putin to upscale the invasion in a viral post, asking: 'Vladimir Vladimirovich, are we fighting a war or masturbating?'

In a viral rant posted by YouTuber and Spetsnaz special forces veteran Alexander Arutyunov, whose channel Razvedos has almost 18million views, Arutyunov slammed the pivot to the eastern Donbas region.

He asked Putin directly: 'Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich, please decide, are we fighting a war or are we masturbating?

'We need to stop this dry h***job.'

Meanwhile Russian Air Force Telegram FighterBomber wrote to members: 'We’ll further increase air defense units on the border with Ukraine in order to cover our territory from ballistic missile strikes, but it is also clear that NATO countries have far more weapons than Russia.'

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To: Kazan; All

“Are you are neo-Nazis is that why you’re supporting Ukraine?”

There has been a much greater Nazi problem in Ukraine than most know about, but it isn’t UA Nazi’s, it is actual Russian Nazi’s. Some of those involved have been bold enough to go on national televised programs in Russia as will be found below -

https://www.memri.org/dttm/foreign-fighters-least-35-neo-nazi-white-supremacist-and-ultranationalist-groups-based-us-texas

https://informnapalm.org/en/russian-neo-nazis-in-the-ranks-of-wagner-pmc/

https://bitterwinter.org/nazism-in-ukraine-7-russian-propaganda/

https://bitterwinter.org/nazism-in-ukraine-6-pro-russian-nazi-fighters/

Whatever you do, don’t scroll down and look at these pics
https://newslanc.com/tsukerman-russian-nazi-volunteers-in-donbas/

Russian Communist/Nazi alliance fighting in Donbas to take Eastern Ukraine for Russia —

Communist and NAZI’s supported and fighting together
https://www.outono.net/elentir/2022/03/01/the-alliance-of-pro-russian-communists-and-nazis-fighting-against-ukraine-in-donbas/

SENT FROM RUSSIA —

https://khpg.org/en/1608809502
https://khpg.org/en/1445287320

Russian 8th Army in Ukraine —

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_separatist_forces_in_Donbas

Poor saps, as happened in Syria, Georgia, and even Libya, Putin won’t allow the world to know who they were, or their families to be compensated, as it would tip the world off that Putin and his FSB have been funding, training, and using actual RUSSIAN neo-NAZI’s to destabilize Ukraine since at least 2004/2005, and much more since 2012.

Their deaths would reveal how Moscow has literally been training and supporting neo-NAZI’s, and not just in Eastern Ukraine —

*******

Truth be told, there is a lot more, and the following is only a fraction —

I have personally spent time proximal to метро Комсамольская (Metro Station Commsamolskaya, North Central Moscow), and been to two of it’s modern global socialist news/newspaper offices. (And yes, the rumors of 20th Century, all male bathhouses were/are correct. The Young Communist is also associated with Ria Novosti (KGB/FSB), downtown Moscow.

Komsamol — was and is the Young Communist organization HQ’d in Moscow, really consisted of ages 13 up to 29 years olds, with the parent organization as Communist Party of Soviet Union, but still funded by Communist Internationale, and multiple socialist parties within current government (including “Novorossiya”).

Interestingly, “Novorossiya” is a coalition party which also consists of these —

https://cisac.fsi.stanford.edu/mappingmilitants/profiles/russian-imperial-movement

Small elements of an associated team once provided significant information to CISAC/Stanford (as Stanford study was already well along), and SIGACT details of neo-NAZI research of financial ties and attacks (INCLUDING to very recent, and on foreign soil, including Ukraine, the Balkans, Germany, Spain, France, and half dozen countries in Latin America, and Mexico/Canada/US), as well as it’s DIRECT historical financing and training ties to NKVD/KGB/FSB and GRU/Spetsnaz, (including historical to current). Yes, many if these have direct ties to Putin’s past and current FSB, GRU, and NGO related POI’s (some of which are currently not so ironically operational and involved organizationally in trafficking in Mexico, Nicaragua, Guatamala, El Salvador, Panama, Peru, Venezuela, etc... But that is another issue.

It has been estimated by several colleagues of mine (including Russian), as well as some folks over at Ria Novosti (before we were closed out), there may well be significantly more than half a million neo-Nazi”s in and from Russia.

So there is an “enemies foreign and domestic” conspiracy to not only destabilize UA, but the US itself.

Russian neo-NAZI proxy organizations may be small to very large, and involved in multiple government parties and “mega-billionaire oligarchs -

- RIM (including “Partizan”//”Guerilla”)
- Imperial Legion
- DPNI
- ROD
- United Russia Party
- Russian Ethno Political Association
(REPA)
- RGS
- Moscow Defense League
- New Force
- Orthodox Nationalist
- NSI - Opposition Coordination Counsel
neo-Nazi National Socialist Initiative (NSI)
- National Democratic Party of Russia (NDP)
- Russian All-National Union (large RONS umbrella)
- REPA and other subordinates
- Slavic Force (SS)
- Russian National Front
- Rodina
- The Last Crusade

All associated with, or under the formal umbrella political party called *Novorossiya*, but not exclusive.

Subsequently, while well published, these groups have mostly “escaped” Russian law enforcement and FSB scrutiny, and even provided known cover -

SOP’s are also aligned with longstanding and KNOWN FSB political an national “Destabilization by Corruptive Means” of foreign governments. Some teams used to refer to as part of larger Asymmetric Political Destabilization.

Statements of some of these Russian Neo-NAZI organizations, literally mirror FSB FOREIGN DESTABILIZATION

“Vorobyev has stated that the greatest threat to the Russian nation is “the stability of anti-Russian regimes on all the territory inhabited by the Russian ethnos.” In its intervention in Ukraine, RIM saw an opportunity to destabilize the Kiev government and further its objective of protecting ethnic Russians.”

“In March 2015, the group attended the International Russian Conservative Forum, a conference for white supremacists held in St. Petersburg and organized by Rodina, a far-right Russian political party.

[*Not any part of this info was the focus, but we were able to tie funding to multiple Kremlin oligarch accounts, including Sberbank among others, as well as a few foreign transactions.]

Other attendees included U.S. white supremacists, such as Jared Taylor, who serves as the editor of the U.S. white supremacist publication American Renaissance.

Also in attendance were European extreme-right organizations, including

- Golden Dawn (Greece),

- National Democratic Party (Germany)

- Forza Nuova (Italy).

In September 2015, RIM leader Vorobyev traveled to Sweden to meet with the Nordic Resistance Movement (NRM), a neo-Nazi group active across Scandinavian countries and spoke at the NRM’s “Nordic Days” event.

In June 2015, RIM joined Rodina in co-founding the World National Conservative Movement (WNCM). A network of extreme-right groups from around the world, WNCM opposes pluralism, tolerance, and other liberal values, according to its manifesto.

The network promotes the use of violence in service of its ideology. RIM invited over 50 extreme-right, white supremacist, and neo-Nazi groups from 28 countries to join WNCM, including the
National Democratic Party (Germany)
Nordic Resistance Movement (Sweden)
American Freedom Party (United States), among others. A full list of WNCM-affiliated organizations can be seen under “Relations with other groups” in this profile. RIM leaders intended the WNCM network to facilitate the sharing of tactical skills across peer organizations and promote their own paramilitary training program.”

Some of these have direct ties to NAZI organizations from Argentina and Chile as well -

Not unlike the Russian mafia which has historically often duel use FSB, we see similar duel use patterns with some of these neo-Nazi organizations globally.

Not the main threat, but can be used.


101 posted on 04/27/2022 7:45:00 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: patriotfury

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nato-ukraine-bush/bush-vows-to-press-for-ukraine-georgia-in-nato-idUSL0141706220080401

The President of the United States said it was US and NATO policy to have Georgia and UKRAINE join NATO.

Attempts to spin and argue otherwise are silly.


102 posted on 04/28/2022 6:21:28 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: patriotfury
No one in the Donbass has been persecuted by Nazis,

That absolutely nonsense.

Russians HATE Nazis. Duh! The Nazis killed 2.7 million Russians in World War II. Russian nationalism and Nazism are diametrically opposed to one another.

And, in fact, Russia BANS groups affiliated with Nazism.

But, in Ukraine, neo-Nazism is thriving. Streets have been named after and monuments and statues have been built honoring Stepan Bandera, a Nazi collaborator during WWII.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/kiev-renames-major-street-to-honor-russian-nazi-collaborator/

Ukraine’s capital, Kiev, on Thursday renamed its Soviet-era Moscow Avenue after a Russian figure accused by the Kremlin of siding with the Nazis during World War II. Kiev’s local council decided that one of the bustling city’s main northern arteries will now honor Ukrainian nationalist Stepan Bandera.

Marches are taken place honoring Bandera:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundreds-of-ukrainian-nationalists-march-in-in-honor-of-nazi-collaborator/

KYIV, Ukraine — Hundreds of Ukrainian nationalists held a torchlight march in the capital of Kyiv to mark the birthday of Stepan Bandera, the leader of a rebel militia that fought alongside Nazi soldiers in World War II.

The veneration of Nazi collaborators, including killers of Jews, is a growing phenomenon in Eastern Europe

Both Israel and Poland both have condemned Ukraine for honoring Bandera.

https://www.jta.org/quick-reads/in-ukraine-hundreds-march-with-torches-in-annual-tribute-to-nazi-collaborator

Israel’s ambassador condemned the torchlight march Friday in Kyiv in memory of Stepan Bandera, issuing the strongest rebuke yet by an Israeli official of the event, which has grown in scope amid rising nationalism in Ukraine.

“We strongly condemn any glorification of collaborators with the Nazi regime. It is time for Ukraine to come to terms with its past,” Ambassador Joel Lion wrote on Twitter Saturday.

There are plethora of articles and news reports in the Western media exposing the neo-Nazi views of he Azov battalion.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/10/azov-far-right-fighters-ukraine-neo-nazis

"I have nothing against Russian nationalists, or a great Russia," said Dmitry, as we sped through the dark Mariupol night in a pickup truck, a machine gunner positioned in the back. "But Putin's not even a Russian. Putin's a Jew."

Dmitry – which he said is not his real name – is a native of east Ukraine and a member of the Azov battalion, a volunteer grouping that has been doing much of the frontline fighting in Ukraine's war with pro-Russia separatists. The Azov, one of many volunteer brigades to fight alongside the Ukrainian army in the east of the country, has developed a reputation for fearlessness in battle.

But there is an increasing worry that while the Azov and other volunteer battalions might be Ukraine's most potent and reliable force on the battlefield against the separatists, they also pose the most serious threat to the Ukrainian government, and perhaps even the state, when the conflict in the east is over. The Azov causes particular concern due to the far right, even neo-Nazi, leanings of many of its members.

Dmitry claimed not to be a Nazi, but waxed lyrical about Adolf Hitler as a military leader, and believes the Holocaust never happened. Not everyone in the Azov battalion thinks like Dmitry, but after speaking with dozens of its fighters and embedding on several missions during the past week in and around the strategic port city of Mariupol, the Guardian found many of them to have disturbing political views, and almost all to be intent on "bringing the fight to Kiev" when the war in the east is over.

Unlike Russia, however, neo-Nazism and Ukrainian nationalism are linked. Ukrainian nationalists have embraced neo-Nazism with Azov bullies on the frontlines in both war in Donbass and in this war. The Azovs brag about intimidating the government into rejecting the Minsk Agreement, which Ukraine signed off on, that would have brought peace to Donbass.

You're lies to defend the corrupt and evil foreign policy of Obama/Biden/Nuland/Blinken/Deep State and the neocons isn't going to go unchallenged.

103 posted on 04/28/2022 9:20:30 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: PGR88

No spin at all.

No one joins NATO without unanimous agreement.

There are a number of external audited national requirements for any NATO member, beginning with the basic requirements of representative government, and absolute civilian control of all armed forces.

Additionally, NATO requires consensus decision making on any issue. However, for new members, they require unanimous consensus.

Multiple EU nations have said no to Ukraine.

Perhaps most notably Germany, as Germany has had a 30 year history of undermining NATO in several areas.

One of the greatest waya Germany has undermined NATO is through its assistance and development of EU energy dependency on Moscow.

Regardless, there is no consensus, let alone unanimous consensus for Ukraine membership into NATO.

The US leads NATO, and can influence, but does not supercede UNANIMOUS CONSENT for new members.

The true spin is peddling the false claim the POTUS (especially this puppet), has carte blanche control over UNANIMOUS CONSENT.

You of all people would not argue this fake POTUS words are credible, lawful, or coherent.

We rightfully laugh or cry at the dishonesty from leftist in general, and especially the hierarchy, including the Buyden.

As a matter of history, UA has already been denied.

To the anger of many, Clinton made even greater overtures to the Russian Federation, but the Kremlin and it’s FSB/GRU handlers scoffed, unless they were placed in control over NATO. What I stated before was the case. I was in Moscow, and while not my lane, pushed against any divided and authoritative Kremlin/DC co-equivalency.

As well, the subordinate CIS itself is truly a structurally statist and structurally corporatist architecture. (This combination is the fundamental core of a defined fascist state)


104 posted on 04/28/2022 12:00:13 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: Kazan

You can call anyone a liar, and you are now on record as calling me a liar. You and other loyal to the death Russians who have penetrated FreeRepublic have to try and discredit the messenger, as history and reality mess with your Russian pride amd loyalty.

I expect and anticipate nothing less from Russian and Putin loyalists.

However, I did not create the actionable info presented, and do not represent the Russians who are in good part responsible for the information provided.

As well, there were many links to interviews of Russian neo-NAZI’s, both interviews and testimony.

In one case, as it became too prominent and obvious, one of these Russian neo-Nazi organizations (which once had over 100,000 member’s by itself), was forced to disband, but then formed at least two different names.

As a proud Russian, you would argue this as evidence of how anti-Nazi Russia is.

And it is true, most Russian people are not Nazi. Anyone who would state such is uneducated and foolish to suggest this. Most Russian people are not Nazi.

However, the fact Russian authorities stepped in on this one, only proves their existence, and the existence of proponents of the ideology.

As well, their successors exist, and as the anti-Nazi Russians responsible for the investigation point out, these have a recent history of receiving grants from the government itself.

And yes, Russia took many millions of German prisoners, almost entirely using them as slave labor post WWII. Many German descendents have left Russia since 1991, but Russia still has very significant German population in multiple cities, including Russia’s 4th largest city Yekaterinberg.

I don’t place much stock in polls, but for many years, UA is consistently coming back as less anti-Jewish than many nations in the EU, including Russia.

Does this mean everyone in Russia, or anything close to a majority are anti-Jewish, of course not.

But neither is UA.

And several countries are well aware of FSB’s use of criminal organizations, including RU neo-Nazi’s in Ukraine.

Yah, I know, I am a liar. Aha...


105 posted on 04/28/2022 12:36:55 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: patriotfury
You are a liar if you refuse to see neo-Nazi problem in Ukraine. It's not arguable that it exists and that countries like Israel and Poland have expressed concern about it.

And, I have absolutely given you proof of the problem with links to articles proving it.

And, funded and trained the Azovs. It's disgraceful.

106 posted on 04/28/2022 6:08:57 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: patriotfury
As well, there were many links to interviews of Russian neo-NAZI’s,

Nazism is DESPISED in Russia for obvious reasons. Anyone that doesn't know that doesn't know a thing about Russia.

No country suffered more losses at the hand of the Nazis in WWII than Russia so that fact should be obvious.

On other hand, Ukrainian nationalists have rebelled against communism and Russia by embracing Nazism. That's a fact.

107 posted on 04/28/2022 6:11:11 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

Personal attacks aside...

Thankfully, there are honest and trustworthy Russians, where pride wasn’t/isn’t more important than the truth and recognizing a problem, so as to at least try to stop evil, wherever it was active. The Russians involved with us were honorable, and gained great respect.

By the way, in order for me to teach history in Moscow years ago (on the side), I had to pass a course for certification in World History from the Stalinist Perspective. I had to do the same in order to teach Finance (on the side). It was interesting. From the Finance side, I had to be careful what I said, but borrowed heavily from The Austrian School of Economics, which is often synonymous with original US Constitutionally based principle. Teaching Russian students was a true honor, and enjoyable. For me it was a way to relax.

The links provided speak of neo-Nazi’s in many countries, not just Russia, and including the Ukraine AND United States, AND across Europe. So not just a Russian and Ukrainian problem.

As stated several times now, this was not my lane, but the teams involved were often joint Russian/US. However, we were always aware there were powers in Russian government and security which would, and did prejudicially end both internal investigation, as well as cooperation on near all related matters. The sharing went both ways.

The information is documented and interviews with Russians are real, although “Open Source”, and not even close
to comprehensive.

The foreign neo-Nazi interaction continues.



Underlying Fundamentals —

Fundamentally, the ideologies of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party (NAZI), and Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) were at their core centralized humanistic socialist states.

Fundamentally, while not the same in several points, both were near aligned political manifestations of Humanist Manifesto’s I & II, and Communist Manifesto’s I & II.

As to history, no one on FreeRepublic should need to discover the pre WWII genocidal atrocities of not really Lenin and Stalin (while they were certainly guilty), but of what Marxist Communism brought and enabled through them. Nor would most on FreeRepublic be devoid of knowledge regarding Stalin and Hitler’s joint plan to divide and subjugate Eastern Europe, even while they both had greater ideas.

The number of pre WWII dead in Russia, Ukraine, and the Soviet Union due to Communism and Communist thuggery, regardless of low-ball figures or higher figures, is in the tens of millions of people.

The number of pre WWII dead in Ukraine proper, including from both Lenin and Stalin, ranges from near 10 million on the low end, to nearly 26 million on the high end (with substantive birth and edu records, but unprovable death documentation subsequent to large scale Siberian deportation).

As with other large scale nationalities deported (many to Siberia), the death records are often, and intentionally, non-existent.

Not all, but many millions of people deported were never seen or heard from again.

In a nutshell, beginning with Barbarossa, through the NAZI occupation and control of Ukraine (1941-1945), approximately 5.8 Million more Ukrainian’s died.

Many millions more were put into German slave labor camps. These are big numbers, and the camps consisted largely of both Slavs and Jews.
http://www.encyclopediaofukraine.com/display.asp?linkpath=pages%5CN%5CA%5CNaziwarcrimesinUkraine.htm

However, while they were wrong on different levels, at the onset of the brutal Nazi takeover and occupation of Ukraine, some hoped the Germans would beat Stalins Red Army (as Ukraine had been brutalized by Stalin), and chose to side with the NAZI’s.

For others it was superficial, as they were trying to save and preserve their children in a country where many millions of Ukrainian’s were already intentionally wiped out before WWII.

This didn’t go well, as the NAZI’s (national socialists) saw Slavs as un-evolved and inferior, and only good for mass slave labor. Millions of Ukrainian’s were made slaves while under Nazi rule and control. Some estimates are as high as 11 Million slave laborers.

(Interestingly, some of the deadly large scale underground installation/facility projects begun by Stalin well before WWII and constructed by slaves, continued under Nazi rule in Ukraine, then continued again under Soviet re-occupation post WWII)

IT IS NUTS


Lots of national friendly revisionist/cover-up history exist out there, but Post WWII was one big ugly cluster —

https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Forced_labor_of_Germans_after_World_War_II?file=Lager-Moschendorf-Denkmal.jpg

Repeating it again, while certainly not alone, Russia today has a substantial German population.

Additionally, (and again not alone), there are a significant number Slavic neo-Nazi organizations across Russia, with some of these being influential across the EU, and even with ties to North and South America organizations.

As well, FSB and third party paramilitary organizations have indeed utilized these, and substantially to weaken Ukraine for years.

Many organizations know who they are.

The info did not derive from me, and is not mine.


108 posted on 04/29/2022 4:40:02 AM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: patriotfury
The links provided speak of neo-Nazi’s in many countries, not just Russia, and including the Ukraine AND United States, AND across Europe.

What other country other than Ukraine is naming streets after and building statues and monuments to Nazi collaborators? I've proven that with my onwn links. None that I see.

Nazism and Ukrainian nationalist are intertwined in Ukraine like no other nation. It is part Ukrainian nationalist identity -- a rebellion, albeit a perverse one -- against communism.

Israel has condemned Ukraine as I have proven for honoring Stepan Bandera as I have proven with links.

And, if you're even remotely conservative those labeled neo-Nazis elsewhere aren't truly neo-Nazis but nationalists false linked to Nazism. Trump supporters have been accused of being neo-Nazis. Supporters of Orban in Hungary have been.

But, in Ukrainian, the Azovs and Bandera supporters are truly neo-Nazi. I also proved that with a link I provided from a article from the UK Guardian back in 2014 where it interviewed members sympathetic to Hitler and claimed Putin was a Jew.

Ukraine is absolutely the heart of neo-Nazism in the world. And, they and Ukrainian nationalists despise and have persecuted the ethnically Russian population in Ukraine since the Maidan revolution in 2014. And, we fomented that revolution, trained and funded the neo-Nazis and encouraged the eight-year war in Donbass that killed 16,000 people in direct violation of the Minsk Agreement that Ukraine signed off on.

We stuck our nose in Ukraine, installed our own puppet government illegally, caused a civil war and trained and funded neo-Nazi radicals while our corrupt politicians and their donors made millions, if not billions, in Ukraine.

It's disgrace anyone would defend what we've done in Ukraine.

The ethnically Russian part of Ukraine is truly being liberated and far better off under Russian rule.

109 posted on 04/29/2022 9:31:14 AM PDT by Kazan
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