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To: patriotfury
No one in the Donbass has been persecuted by Nazis,

That absolutely nonsense.

Russians HATE Nazis. Duh! The Nazis killed 2.7 million Russians in World War II. Russian nationalism and Nazism are diametrically opposed to one another.

And, in fact, Russia BANS groups affiliated with Nazism.

But, in Ukraine, neo-Nazism is thriving. Streets have been named after and monuments and statues have been built honoring Stepan Bandera, a Nazi collaborator during WWII.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/kiev-renames-major-street-to-honor-russian-nazi-collaborator/

Ukraine’s capital, Kiev, on Thursday renamed its Soviet-era Moscow Avenue after a Russian figure accused by the Kremlin of siding with the Nazis during World War II. Kiev’s local council decided that one of the bustling city’s main northern arteries will now honor Ukrainian nationalist Stepan Bandera.

Marches are taken place honoring Bandera:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundreds-of-ukrainian-nationalists-march-in-in-honor-of-nazi-collaborator/

KYIV, Ukraine — Hundreds of Ukrainian nationalists held a torchlight march in the capital of Kyiv to mark the birthday of Stepan Bandera, the leader of a rebel militia that fought alongside Nazi soldiers in World War II.

The veneration of Nazi collaborators, including killers of Jews, is a growing phenomenon in Eastern Europe

Both Israel and Poland both have condemned Ukraine for honoring Bandera.

https://www.jta.org/quick-reads/in-ukraine-hundreds-march-with-torches-in-annual-tribute-to-nazi-collaborator

Israel’s ambassador condemned the torchlight march Friday in Kyiv in memory of Stepan Bandera, issuing the strongest rebuke yet by an Israeli official of the event, which has grown in scope amid rising nationalism in Ukraine.

“We strongly condemn any glorification of collaborators with the Nazi regime. It is time for Ukraine to come to terms with its past,” Ambassador Joel Lion wrote on Twitter Saturday.

There are plethora of articles and news reports in the Western media exposing the neo-Nazi views of he Azov battalion.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/10/azov-far-right-fighters-ukraine-neo-nazis

"I have nothing against Russian nationalists, or a great Russia," said Dmitry, as we sped through the dark Mariupol night in a pickup truck, a machine gunner positioned in the back. "But Putin's not even a Russian. Putin's a Jew."

Dmitry – which he said is not his real name – is a native of east Ukraine and a member of the Azov battalion, a volunteer grouping that has been doing much of the frontline fighting in Ukraine's war with pro-Russia separatists. The Azov, one of many volunteer brigades to fight alongside the Ukrainian army in the east of the country, has developed a reputation for fearlessness in battle.

But there is an increasing worry that while the Azov and other volunteer battalions might be Ukraine's most potent and reliable force on the battlefield against the separatists, they also pose the most serious threat to the Ukrainian government, and perhaps even the state, when the conflict in the east is over. The Azov causes particular concern due to the far right, even neo-Nazi, leanings of many of its members.

Dmitry claimed not to be a Nazi, but waxed lyrical about Adolf Hitler as a military leader, and believes the Holocaust never happened. Not everyone in the Azov battalion thinks like Dmitry, but after speaking with dozens of its fighters and embedding on several missions during the past week in and around the strategic port city of Mariupol, the Guardian found many of them to have disturbing political views, and almost all to be intent on "bringing the fight to Kiev" when the war in the east is over.

Unlike Russia, however, neo-Nazism and Ukrainian nationalism are linked. Ukrainian nationalists have embraced neo-Nazism with Azov bullies on the frontlines in both war in Donbass and in this war. The Azovs brag about intimidating the government into rejecting the Minsk Agreement, which Ukraine signed off on, that would have brought peace to Donbass.

You're lies to defend the corrupt and evil foreign policy of Obama/Biden/Nuland/Blinken/Deep State and the neocons isn't going to go unchallenged.

103 posted on 04/28/2022 9:20:30 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

You can call anyone a liar, and you are now on record as calling me a liar. You and other loyal to the death Russians who have penetrated FreeRepublic have to try and discredit the messenger, as history and reality mess with your Russian pride amd loyalty.

I expect and anticipate nothing less from Russian and Putin loyalists.

However, I did not create the actionable info presented, and do not represent the Russians who are in good part responsible for the information provided.

As well, there were many links to interviews of Russian neo-NAZI’s, both interviews and testimony.

In one case, as it became too prominent and obvious, one of these Russian neo-Nazi organizations (which once had over 100,000 member’s by itself), was forced to disband, but then formed at least two different names.

As a proud Russian, you would argue this as evidence of how anti-Nazi Russia is.

And it is true, most Russian people are not Nazi. Anyone who would state such is uneducated and foolish to suggest this. Most Russian people are not Nazi.

However, the fact Russian authorities stepped in on this one, only proves their existence, and the existence of proponents of the ideology.

As well, their successors exist, and as the anti-Nazi Russians responsible for the investigation point out, these have a recent history of receiving grants from the government itself.

And yes, Russia took many millions of German prisoners, almost entirely using them as slave labor post WWII. Many German descendents have left Russia since 1991, but Russia still has very significant German population in multiple cities, including Russia’s 4th largest city Yekaterinberg.

I don’t place much stock in polls, but for many years, UA is consistently coming back as less anti-Jewish than many nations in the EU, including Russia.

Does this mean everyone in Russia, or anything close to a majority are anti-Jewish, of course not.

But neither is UA.

And several countries are well aware of FSB’s use of criminal organizations, including RU neo-Nazi’s in Ukraine.

Yah, I know, I am a liar. Aha...


105 posted on 04/28/2022 12:36:55 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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