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Cancel Mom’s Grocery Bag Misinformation
Townhall.com ^ | April 26, 2022 | Paul Driessen

Posted on 04/26/2022 6:16:06 AM PDT by Kaslin

I don’t deliberately avoid organic foods or markets, but I don’t seek them out either. Claims that organic food tastes better or is more nutritious are not supported by evidence and certainly don’t justify the far higher prices. Mostly, I’m put off by assertions that organic food is pesticide-free, safer and more planet-friendly. Those assertions are simply false advertising; deliberate misinformation.

Mom’s Organic Market shopping bags provide an excellent example. They’re emblazoned with six “Bee Informed” messages that help customers Bee the Change, Give Bees a Chance, and Save the Bees from a looming Armageddon attributed to synthetic pesticides. The Bee Misinformed messages merit correction.

1. The #1 irrigated crop in the US is lawn grass, using over 10 trillion gallons of water per year. Mom’s didn’t say where its number came from; and if this basic information is fishy, what about the other messages? The Natural Resources Defense Council says US lawns consume three trillion gallons per year – not ten. Still, too many people overwater, use fine sprays that let too much water evaporate, and/or water lawns during the hottest hours or days of the week. The better message is, water smarter.

2. Suburban lawns and gardens receive more pesticide applications per acre than agriculture. This may be true, but is it? Can’t Mom’s be more transparent about its sources? Homeowners should use lawn and garden chemicals carefully, responsibly and sparingly – and assume that any chemical (synthetic or organic) may be toxic and dangerous: to bees, other insects, fish, wildlife, pets, children and themselves.

3. A single bee colony can pollinate over 300 million flowers a day. Busy as a bee – sure. But really? A typical hive (colony) has 10,000 to 80,000 worker bees. Assuming 50,000 on average, this means each bee would have to visit 6,000 flowers per day. Perhaps in a sprawling canola field; but otherwise pretty unlikely. Again, what’s Mom’s source?

4. Scientists found bee-killing neonicotinoids in 75% of honey sampled from around the world. Now we’re getting into the nitty-gritty of ongoing organic food and environmentalist campaigns to frighten people (especially moms) into going full-organic and avoiding conventionally grown food.

The scientists are finding parts per billion. 1 ppb is equivalent to 1 second in 33 years – or 50 drops of water in a 50-by-25-by-2-meter Olympic-sized swimming pool: 2 teaspoons in 660,000 gallons.

Used primarily to coat seeds, neonics become part of the plant tissue and target only pests that actually feed on the crops, particularly during early growth stages. They greatly reduce the need for aerial or ground-level spraying with other chemicals that are much more of a threat to bees and other pollinators. They are a far lower risk to honeybees or wild bees than some organic pesticides – or Varroa destructor mites that attach to bees, suppress their immune systems, carry deadly diseases, create pathways for other diseases to enter bee bodies, and can cause well-publicized “colony collapse disorder.”

Neonics may be detected in honey because so much comes from vast canola fields in western Canada, where canola is grown with neonic-coated seeds, and beekeepers place their hives in the fields because bees thrive there and produce delicious honey. Don’t equate detection with danger.

5. There are traces of 20 different pesticides in the average American’s body. Mom’s could at least post the source for this assertion on its website. More important, these parts per billion are detectable only because modern lab equipment is so sophisticated. The traces are not at levels that should cause concern.

And what about organic pesticides? Organic farmers also use many different pesticides to protect their crops. But Mom’s, Greenpeace, the Environmental Working Group (EWG) and the organic food industry don’t look for or talk about traces of organic farming pesticides: in honey, on produce or in human bodies. Perhaps they don’t want people (especially mothers) to know or think about that.

The Risk Monger’s Dirty Dozen List of Toxic Organic Pesticides provides an informative overview of “natural” fungicides and insecticides used on organic farms – including chemicals that are toxic to bees, other insect and wildlife species, and humans.

Among those organic farm chemicals, copper sulfate is highly toxic to bees, deadly to fish, and bio-accumulative in soil and water. Pyrethrin neurotoxin pesticides are also very toxic to bees – and are possible human carcinogens; originally derived from flowers (which is why they can still be classified as organic), they are now manufactured synthetically. Like neonicotinoids, nicotine sulfate is derived from nicotine; it can paralyze bee wings and legs, and is poisonous to humans.

Other “natural,” “organic” chemicals that are highly toxic to bees include rotenone, spinosad, hydrogen peroxide, azidirachtin (neem oil), citronella oil, and even garlic extract and acetic acid.

If Greenpeace, the EWG or the US Department of Agriculture (USDA) ever spent the time and money to test for these chemicals, they’d undoubtedly find “traces” of “organic” chemicals on “organic” produce.

6. Roughly 0.1% of pesticides reach their targeted pests, leaving 99.9% to impact the environment. That sounds farfetched because it is, especially for crops grown using neonic-treated seeds so that the pesticide becomes a systemic part of the plant and targets pests that try to eat the crops.

Today’s farmers are far more careful and judicious in how, where and how much they use chemicals to control the insects, viruses, molds and other pests that want to beat you to the foods you enjoy. They also employ a variety of “integrated pest management” techniques – including corn, cotton and other crops that splice Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt) genes into the plant structure, to control pests that feed on those crops, thereby reducing the need for hand, tractor or aerial spraying with chemicals.

(Organic farmers often spray live Bt bacteria on crops. But that carries risks that the spray could drift onto nearby plants and beneficial insects. It’s a mystery that EWG doesn’t wax apoplectic about that.)

Those who still harbor concerns might be comforted knowing that the USDA conducts a Pesticide Data Program that’s been ongoing now for three decades. The PDP tests different (conventionally grown) produce every year – and issues a “report card” on how well US and international farmers comply with Environmental Protection Agency rules designed to protect moms and families from (conventional) pesticide-related health issues.

While the annual EWG “Dirty Dozen List” is designed to instill unfounded fears about eating non-organic fruits and vegetables, because of alleged pesticide poisoning – the PDP analyses are scientific and data-driven. The PDP goal is to ensure that all pesticide residues have fallen to levels that pose no risks to humans by the time they reach supermarkets.

The latest 200-page report provides comforting news for consumers. It’s available here – or you can read plant pathologist Steve Savage’s summary and commentary here and here.

One further issue deserves mention. Not surprisingly, Mom’s bags are made of kraft paper. Plastic bags (we’re told) are petroleum-based and clog landfills. Of course, it’s more complex than that. I operated bag-making machines during college. Paper and paper-bag-making processes are tree, energy and chemicals-intensive; and heavier, bulkier paper bags take years to break down in landfills. The volume of either is trifling, however, compared to pollution and waste from solar panels and wind turbines.

The bottom line is simple. As the USDA and Risk Monger emphasize, pesticide residues on both conventional and organic fruits and vegetables almost never pose risks to moms, dads, kids, or other planetary creatures. Bee not afraid. Enjoy eating them, because they’re good for you.

And correct or cancel Mom’s misinformation.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: agriculture; antihealthpeople; fakenews; gardening; michaelshermer; organicgardening
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To: Kaslin
All plants on the planet have pesticides naturally.

If they did not, they would be eaten by pests.

Plants that have been bred to have less natural pesticides so they are less toxic to humans have to be grown under controlled condition or treated with human created pesticides so they will be able to grow to maturity.

21 posted on 04/26/2022 7:48:36 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (It is better to light a single flame thrower then curse the darkness. A bunch of them is better yet)
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To: leaning conservative

If you like shrimp, buy a pound or two of the Private Selection Argentinian Red Shrimp. They are wild caught in the Atlantic. Once you have bought them a couple of times Kroger constantly sends you $2.50 off coupons for them.

NEVER buy any seafood that says “wild caught” if it is from China. Their fish is coming out of horribly polluted water. When my daughter was in China in 2002 she said the water they were fishing had visible pollution coating the surface.

Do not by farm raised shrimp from anywhere even though the price is so nice. Only buy US gulf caught shrimp or the Argentinian ones I suggested.


22 posted on 04/26/2022 7:51:43 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there..)
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To: Kaslin

We had the population of honey bees fall drastically a few years ago due to the mites, not pesticides. And immediately the native bees (smaller with black/white bands) came back and were happily pollinating away. Gardens and farms were just fine.


23 posted on 04/26/2022 8:16:28 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Lizavetta

Difference Between Heirloom, Hybrid, and GMO Vegetables
By MARIE IANNOTTI Updated on 12/18/20

Excerpt:

Genetically Modified Plants

Hybrids should not be confused with genetically modified organisms—or GMOs—which can be any plant, animal, or microorganism that has been genetically altered using molecular genetics techniques such as gene cloning and protein engineering. Plants like corn that has the pesticide Bt engineered into its genetic makeup to make it resistant to certain pests are GMO crops. Bt is a natural pesticide, but it would never naturally find its way into corn seed.

You probably are not too keen on infusing your food with pesticides, and the overuse of a pesticide often results in the targeted pest becoming resistant to it. These types of concerns have given GMOs a terrible reputation. However, there are times when GMOs have arguably been quite positive in their impact—such as the high-yield, disease-resistant dwarf wheat introduced by Norman Ernest Borlaug, which helped increase the food supplies in India and Pakistan.

https://www.thespruce.com/hybrid-vs-heirloom-vegetables-1403361

Genetically Manipulated Crops: The GMO Catastrophe in the USA. A Lesson for the World

Excerpt:
Recently the unelected potentates of the EU Commission in Brussels have sought to override what has repeatedly been shown to be the overwhelming opposition of the European Union population to the spread of Genetically Modified Organisms (GMO) in EU agriculture. EU Commission President now has a Maltese accountant as health and enviromnent Commissioner to rubber stamp the adoption of GMO. The former EU Environment Commissioner from Greece was a ferocious GMO opponent. As well, the Chinese government has indicated it may approve a variety of GMO rice. Before things get too far along, they would do well to take a closer look at the world GMO test lab, the USA. There GMO crops are anything but beneficial. Just the opposite.

What is carefully kept out of the Monsanto and other agribusiness propaganda in promoting genetically manipulated crops as an alternative to conventional is the fact that in the entire world until the present, all GMO crops have been manipulated and patented for only two things—to be resistant or “tolerant” to the patented highly toxic herbicide glyphosate chemicals that Monsanto and the others force farmers to buy as condition for buying their patented GMO seeds. The second trait is GMO seeds that have been engineered genetically to resist specific insects. Contrary to public relations myths promoted by the agribusiness giants in their own self-interest, there exists not oné single GMO seed that provides a greater harvest yield than conventional, nor one that requires less toxic chemical herbicides. That is for the simple reason there is no profit to be made in such.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/genetically-manipulated-crops-the-gmo-catastrophe-in-the-usa-a-lesson-for-the-world/20675


24 posted on 04/26/2022 8:17:20 AM PDT by jacknhoo ( Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Kaslin

You’d be hard pressed to find food that hasn’t been GMOed in some fashion. All corn is GMO. Have you ever seen natural corn? It looks nothing like the yellow stuff in the store. How about watermelons? Most are bred (GMOed) to be seedless. And also taste worse.


25 posted on 04/26/2022 8:21:03 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Ooh, thanks for the tip! Are the Argentinian shrimp in the fresh seafood or frozen section? The coupons they send are indeed great.


26 posted on 04/26/2022 8:46:32 AM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!)
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To: DoodleBob; Kaslin; metmom

It’s safest to grow your own if you can. Growing SOME of your food is better than growing NONE of your food! Second choice would be to shop Farmers Markets for fruits and veggies and local sources for meat. I am in no way an EXPERT on any of this, but I do have a lot of experience in growing food and meat animals over the past two decades. I don’t hunt anymore, but I do fish, and I always help with the butchering when Beau drags something home from the field, LOL!

‘Organic’ is a scam. Wish I had thought of it. Here is a list of pesticides and other chemicals ALLOWED in ‘organic’ farming for plants and animals. It will boggle your mind!

I wonder if the Vegans and such actually KNOW how many chemicals it takes to grow soy for their Tofu Burgers? If they did, they’d be back to being carnivores in a heartbeat!

https://debunkingdenialism.com/2019/09/01/pesticides-and-other-chemicals-used-in-organic-farming/


27 posted on 04/26/2022 9:06:05 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: leaning conservative

Frozen

https://www.kroger.com/p/private-selection-wild-caught-argentinian-raw-extra-large-peeled-deveined-shrimp/0001111098857


28 posted on 04/26/2022 9:15:17 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there..)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Thank you : )


29 posted on 04/26/2022 9:23:18 AM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Thank you, Diana! What you did by posting the link to that information is why I love FR and FReepers! We inform each other of things that might be overlooked or even hidden; things that help educate us and give light so that we can make better decisions in how we live our lives. Bravo!


30 posted on 04/26/2022 9:44:14 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I wish “smart resume” would work for the real world so I could FF through the Burden admin BS.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Soy is Satan. Just sayin’.


31 posted on 04/26/2022 1:50:34 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: Lizavetta

price?


32 posted on 04/26/2022 3:23:01 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: logi_cal869
The local Farmer’s Market at one time was a reasonable choice, but has degraded to a rip-off, catering primarily to local elites and the hippie vegan community.


Willie; why do you rob banks?

Because that's where the money is.

33 posted on 04/26/2022 3:24:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tommy Revolts

All food is GMO.

Actually think mother nature created dozens of corn varieties?

It’s called botany and husbandry.


34 posted on 04/26/2022 3:27:28 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I'll wear a mask when Dr. Fraudchi shuts the hell up.)
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To: FamiliarFace

amen


35 posted on 04/26/2022 3:30:24 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DoodleBob; metmom; Pollard; Pete from Shawnee Mission; All

36 posted on 04/26/2022 4:49:35 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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