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Rep. Marie Newman: Without universal background checks, Illinois’ gun laws are only as good as its neighboring states’ (barf alert)
Chicago Tribune ^ | 1 mar 2022 | MARIE NEWMAN

Posted on 03/01/2022 5:16:51 AM PST by rellimpank

A dangerous debate on gun reform is brewing in Indiana. Despite appeals raised directly by local law enforcement leaders, for the second time in two years the state’s Republican-dominated legislature attempted to advance a controversial proposal that would eliminate permit requirements to carry a handgun in the state.

In its original form, this bill would allow tens of thousands of residents who’ve never completed a background check to now be able to openly carry a handgun in public.

While I’m pleased to report that a state Senate panel nixed this controversial permitless measure from the bill in a close vote last week, it is far from the end of this eight-year effort by Indiana House Republicans.

To Illinois residents, it may sound heartening that Indiana’s already lax gun laws stop at state lines. But the harsh reality is that guns do not.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; rkba; rkbaguns
--the usual "neighboring state" claim--
1 posted on 03/01/2022 5:16:51 AM PST by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

The neighbors have low crime. Chicago is a cesspool of criminal activity 24/7. I am thinking it is not the guns.


2 posted on 03/01/2022 5:20:49 AM PST by ilgipper (The mob only destroys. Never creates. )
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To: rellimpank

So I guess the Dakotas or Montana or Vermont or Maine or New Hampshire are to blame for drugs and illiteracy and welfare dependency and other things for black lives to not really matter in Chicago. Okay, I got it now.


3 posted on 03/01/2022 5:21:09 AM PST by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966 )
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To: rellimpank

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

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And as for the "neighboring state" thing...Rat Party Headquarters doesn't seem to care how many guns are coming into the country since they swung open the gates of our southern border.

4 posted on 03/01/2022 5:24:29 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Balloting)
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To: rellimpank

Kinda hard to do “universal background checks” while inviting people to enter the country illegally and undocumented.


5 posted on 03/01/2022 5:35:41 AM PST by Egon (I collect spores, molds, and fungus.)
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To: OttawaFreeper
I've been to a town in Vermont called Derby Line,which borders on the Quebec town of Stanstead and is the home of the rather famous Haskell Library,a building that was intentionally built directly on the border as an expression of "international friendship".There's also a street near there called Canusa Avenue which actually constitutes the border. Driving on it you see Vermont plates on one side and Quebec plates on the other.

I've seen the RCMP on the north side (I once had a short chat with one (standing about 5 feet apart),asking him questions about the RCMP) and the US Customs Service is always patrolling the southern side.Apart from the cameras and sensors they have on both sides you could literally stroll across at that library.

6 posted on 03/01/2022 5:35:48 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Balloting)
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So if my neighbor, shoot a few people, it is because of my guns? Are you crazy?

Oops, you are crazy, since you are a Democrat!

7 posted on 03/01/2022 6:03:03 AM PST by Deplorable American1776 (I'm the ones trying to save American Democracy...Donald Trump 6/21 at the NCGOP convention! )
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To: rellimpank
--- "Illinois’ gun laws are only as good as its neighboring states’... "

Under Democrat Newman's logic, Illinois should rule its neighboring states. Given the "Chicago way" and enormous corruption of Illinois, perhaps the surrounding states should be allowed to rule Illinois, in a "turnabout's fair play" manner?

But it does seem strange that all those neighboring states cities and counties have far lower gun deaths per capita than -- hmm -- Chicago.

8 posted on 03/01/2022 6:05:30 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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To: rellimpank

“Freedom is dangerous.”


9 posted on 03/01/2022 6:19:02 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: rellimpank

If you trust a 16 year-old with a 4000 lb sharp-edged box with 200 hp,I think you can trust their parents with a gun. Maybe the murder rate in VT, NH, ME or WY might be instructive.


10 posted on 03/01/2022 6:39:10 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: rellimpank

The “Neighboring State” nonsense again. It is illegal under Federal Law to buy a handgun across state lines.

From an anti-gun site...
https://giffords.org/lawcenter/gun-laws/policy-areas/background-checks/interstate-online-gun-sales/

“Handguns. Under federal law, anyone who does not have a federal gun dealer license, or other Federal Firearms License (FFL), is generally prohibited from acquiring a handgun directly from a seller or transferor who resides in a different state.”


11 posted on 03/01/2022 6:56:37 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Biden's foreign policy.."THOSE WHO WISH TO SAVE THEMSELVES, FOLLOW ME!" as he runs to the border.)
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To: rellimpank

Illinois politicians are not satisfied with screwing up their own state. They want to screw up all the others as well.


12 posted on 03/01/2022 7:02:21 AM PST by EastTexasTraveler
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To: rellimpank

No, gun laws are only as good as the enforcement of the laws. In Illinois, they don’t want to arrest people, so the bad guys do what they want.


13 posted on 03/01/2022 7:09:30 AM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: rellimpank

Go ring up some Chicago gang bangers.


14 posted on 03/01/2022 7:21:01 AM PST by Luke21
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To: rellimpank

—the usual “neighboring state” claim—


Missouri enjoys Constitutional carry and we share a border with Illinois, so I guess we’re to blame for Chicago criminal violence.


15 posted on 03/01/2022 7:51:54 AM PST by hanamizu
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To: rellimpank

Maybe it’s the “lax” gun control laws in neighboring States keeping the high crime rate in Illinois from spreading.


16 posted on 03/01/2022 1:02:08 PM PST by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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