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BREAKING: The Supreme Court agrees to hear a pair of cases that challenge the race-based affirmative action policies for admission at Harvard University and the University of North Carolina
Twitter ^ | January 24, 2022 | SCOTUS Blog

Posted on 01/24/2022 8:45:57 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin

BREAKING: The Supreme Court agrees to hear a pair of cases that challenge the race-based affirmative action policies for admission at Harvard University and the University of North Carolina. The cases likely will be argued next term.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; diversity; education; harvard; racistacademics; racistuniversities; scotus; scrotus; supremecourt; unc
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

“I think the fat lady is finally about to sing on race-based preferences. And the ripple effects on the entire DEI agenda may be huge.”

Don’t be surprised if admissions committees at Universities begin to shift from overtly race based selection to other criteria that are highly correlated with being black.


41 posted on 01/24/2022 10:41:01 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

During a work annual review, I was asked if I was aware of the company’s AA and EO policies. I told my reviewer that while I believe the two terms are mutually exclusive of each other, for the sake of the interview, my answer is yes.


42 posted on 01/24/2022 10:45:13 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: bk1000
Ha! Thing is, the term "affirmative action" in the corporate context sometimes has a different meaning than some folks might expect. Generally, corporate AA policies are (or at least were...) focused on outreach/recruitment. So the standards wouldn't be any different for hiring/promotion. It's just that the companies would put forth more effect to find qualified minority applicants. That's entirely legal and not inconsistent with EEO policies.

I'm out of "the biz" now, but from what I can recall, many of the EEO policies have been supplanted by DEI policies. Technically, race discrimination in employment is still illegal, but there has been an erosion of that more recently with the emphasis on "diversity". Sort of a wink-wink/nudge-nudge that they're not given hiring preferences...but they really are.

43 posted on 01/24/2022 10:56:38 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Any institution that gets a penny of government subsidy should not be allowed to discriminate. That should also include the government itself.


44 posted on 01/24/2022 10:59:36 AM PST by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: 1Old Pro

Yes...but the Civil Rights Act of 1964 also bars discrimination on the basis of race for private employment and education.


45 posted on 01/24/2022 11:06:50 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

here’s the problem:

the racists at Harvard and UNC want lots of blacks and Hispanics and so award them points

So, Harvard is 15 percent black, and 13 percent Hispanic because of affirmative action, and 25 percent Asian because of the opposite of affirmative action.

This would appear to leave 52 percent of the admission slots for whites, but not really.

Because a lot of the 52 percent is reserved for “legacies” (sons and daughters of alums) and children of “whales” (potential big donors).

Maybe a quarter of the seats are available to non-privileged whites.

Well, what if it were illegal to cap enrollment of Asians? Then maybe Asians go from 25 percent to 40 percent. And the seats available to non-privileged whites go from something like 25 percent to something like 10 percent.

That would NOT be politically acceptable at a public university, and might not be palatable at a private university either.

Hence, capping Asian enrollment is needed to keep non-privileged whites thinking they have a chance. Lifting the cap on Asians would make it clear that non-privileged whites are screwed at elite colleges.


46 posted on 01/24/2022 11:07:06 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: Redmen4ever
Nah -- the issue isn't going to be "you can't screw Asians." It's going to be "you can't consider race when making admissions decisions. Even Roberts -- for as much as he weasels on some issues -- has been very clear on this one. He wrote:

"The way to stop discriminating on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race."

There has essentially been a three justice swing since the Court last considered this issue, and it has been in our direction.

47 posted on 01/24/2022 11:15:49 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Supreme Court has to crack down on serial violators of discriminatory admissions, the Ivy League schools, and not only rule their discriminatory admissions process unconstitutional but appoint an overseer going forward to supervise their admissions process since they have a history of discriminating. The corrective process should require all names of applicants to be redacted during the admissions process and all questions as to race, religion or ethnicity of applicant be prohibited, Force the process to be color blind by blindfolding the admissions counsellor when it comes to the race of applicant.


48 posted on 01/24/2022 11:16:41 AM PST by chuckee
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To: chuckee
Well, they're not going to rule it unconstitutional because it is a private school. The claim is that there is a violated of the Civil Rights Act. The 14th Amendment/Constitutional claim is being adjudicated in the University of North Carolina case.

The Court almost never gets involved in drafting actual enforcement mechanisms. What they'll generally do is issue an order reversing the lower court, and direct it to implement the SCOTUS ruling.

49 posted on 01/24/2022 11:20:00 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .)
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To: ETCM

That’s because a case for whites is a non-starter these days. The point is that it is only color (here, Asian is not quite ‘color’ enough given their groups’ successes) that decides and not capability.


50 posted on 01/24/2022 11:27:43 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Affirm action has been speared repeatedly by the courts. But each individual school has kept it up just daring anyone to come after them. A legal firm that wants to make it their thing to jam the issue school by school could probably make some money..


51 posted on 01/24/2022 11:33:37 AM PST by lurk (u)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

As well it should.


52 posted on 01/24/2022 11:34:22 AM PST by FrankRizzo890
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To: lurk
I was in the Labor and Employment Group of a very large firm, and we rather blatantly had a very strong hiring preference for black law students because we were being pressured by clients to have more black attorneys. The head of our group -- who was himself black but not "woke" -- openly said it was probably illegal but that we didn't have a choice if we wanted to keep that work.

You could probably bust 90% of the major law firms in this country for unlawful racial hiring preferences. But that edifice will start to crumble if these two cases go the way I think they will.

53 posted on 01/24/2022 11:36:55 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
The Court has changed significantly since then, and there wouldn't be any reason for them to take this case unless they wanted to revisit the 2016 decision. My guess is either 5-4 or 6-3 (Roberts being the swing) to strike it down. The leftie legal pundits already are seeing the writing on the wall.

I think the Dems would secretly want it struck down, to motivate the Left to try any and every means to put a Dem majority in power that would change the law in favor of Affirmative action.

54 posted on 01/24/2022 11:42:30 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (We live in a time where intelligent people are being silenced so stupid people won’t be offended)
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To: PapaBear3625

I don’t think so — racial preferences have never been all that popular, and in fact are still illegal for most employers, including government. If the Supreme Court comes out and says “content of character, not color of skin”, that’s a genie the left will never get back in the bottle.


55 posted on 01/24/2022 11:45:55 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Now this is a game changer.

Makes me wonder why this is coming up now.


56 posted on 01/24/2022 12:26:53 PM PST by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: ETCM

Asians are considered “white” now.

Kind of funny how that classification keeps growing.

For instance, I found out recently that Portuguese were not considered white a while back.


57 posted on 01/24/2022 12:40:58 PM PST by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: redgolum

The timing isn’t anything unusual. It’s just based off when the lower courts reach their decisions. The timing is built in to the pre-existing rules for when appeals, etc., must be filed.


58 posted on 01/24/2022 12:49:41 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .)
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To: G Larry

We’ve lost a generation of potentially great Doctors, denied entry into Med School based upon race.
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That is an issue almost never discussed in any public forum, yet it’s patently obvious that the quality of medical care in this country has badly deteriorated over the last few decades. You’ve touched here on one of the major reasons that has happened.


59 posted on 01/24/2022 2:25:03 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Stay to the right and be ready to fight.)
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To: Regulator

Funny how she likes to have it both ways. Not sure it’s going to work out like that.
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Interesting post. Thanks for sharing.


60 posted on 01/24/2022 2:28:09 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Stay to the right and be ready to fight.)
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