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The Electric Vehicle Scam
Americaoutloud ^ | Jan 15, 2022 | | Dr. Jay Lehr and Tom Harris |

Posted on 01/16/2022 9:44:54 AM PST by Hojczyk

In order to match the 2,000 cars that a typical filling station can service in a busy 12 hours, an EV charging station would require 600, 50-watt chargers at an estimated cost of $24 million and a supply of 30 megawatts of power from the grid. That is enough to power 20,000 homes. No one likely thinks about the fact that it can take 30 minutes to 8 hours to recharge a vehicle between empty or just topping off. What are the drivers doing during that time?

ICSC-Canada board member New Zealand-based consulting engineer Bryan Leyland describes why installing electric car charging stations in a city is impractical:

“If you’ve got cars coming into a petrol station, they would stay for an average of five minutes. If you’ve got cars coming into an electric charging station, they would be at least 30 minutes, possibly an hour, but let’s say its 30 minutes. So that’s six times the surface area to park the cars while they’re being charged. So, multiply every petrol station in a city by six. Where are you going to find the place to put them?”

The government of the United Kingdom is already starting to plan for power shortages caused by the charging of thousands of EVs. Starting in June 2022, the government will restrict the time of day you can charge your EV battery. To do this, they will employ smart meters that are programmed to automatically switch off EV charging in peak times to avoid potential blackouts.

(Excerpt) Read more at americaoutloud.com ...


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To: setter
10 year from now most here will have an EV and talk about how great it is. No more oil changes, nor more $1000 brake rotor and brakes rebuilds (Ev’s are getting away from calipers and rotors)

That’s all well and good, but what about when the battery will no longer hold a charge and the dealer tells you a new battery will cost $15,000?

201 posted on 01/16/2022 2:35:08 PM PST by dznutz
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To: setter
my fulltime career is in the health care world

Well, it's obvious you're not in manufacturing, given your cavalier attitude toward unforeseen engineering challenges with new technology.

Let me ask you: other than reduced "emissions" by individual vehicles, and not paying for gas, what performance benefits do EVs provide that my very well-built IC auto doesn't? And I'm not talking 10-20 years from now; this is the last car I plan to own.

202 posted on 01/16/2022 2:40:26 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: M-cubed
A mall in Cleveland did the same thing. Free charging while you shop. <<< its not “free”.....someone is paying for it... probably you if you don't have an EV and shop at that mall...There's an old saying...

Don’t worry, the government will pay for it…………Wait a second……

203 posted on 01/16/2022 2:43:28 PM PST by dznutz
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To: BiteYourSelf

They are developing anodes for batteries that will result rapid charging. (Search Niobium Anode battery)

https://www.ai4beginners.com/solid-state-battery-companies/

(Nice picture of a lady with a car at the link!)

They list 7 companies working on solid state batteries for various products.

“QuantumScape’s all-solid-state battery technology is currently the most advanced. Its prototype battery can charge to 80% capacity in 15 minutes and that’s “faster than either conventional battery or alternative solid-state approaches are capable of delivering”.”

I have a car that runs on gasoline because batteries do not work well in the winter months. (If we can get to Solid Hydrogen Fuel cells I might look at an upgrade.)


204 posted on 01/16/2022 2:51:22 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( Brainstorming.....Just a first step)
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To: Fresh Wind

They just put in a bank of Tesla stations near a local gas station. It was kind of funny seeing three Tesla owners looking bored and sanctimonious at the same time while the rest of us pulled in, got gas and left, ready for another week of driving.


205 posted on 01/16/2022 2:55:18 PM PST by cyclotic (I won't give up my FREEDOM for your FEAR)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Born and raised in a remote area, I live and operate a business in one-EV’s will work for city transportation-short range-but the distances are too great to make EVs cost effective here or a lot of rural/agricultural areas-county land use rules do not support development of charging stations-or any extensive commercial use of land in an area of small farm/ranch agriculture-our electricity is provided by a rural co-op, water is protected as a resource, and many of us live off-grid by choice, gone Galt...

A few people who commute about 50 miles to the city for work have bought EVs over the past 2-3 years-but only 2 still own one-the others were sold-owners found them to be too expensive to keep up, and not all that reliable for commuting-so back to the 4x4 Pickup or SUV that is standard here...


206 posted on 01/16/2022 2:56:13 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Hojczyk
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207 posted on 01/16/2022 2:57:27 PM PST by dznutz
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To: roadcat

A gas pump that’s been destroyed is a totally different thing than a severely degraded one.


208 posted on 01/16/2022 3:06:07 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Here’s an interesting stat;

First gasoline powered car, 1885.

First EV, sometime in the 1830s ( exact date isn’t clear ).

So EVs were around for decades before ICE vehicles.


209 posted on 01/16/2022 3:14:12 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: EVO X

Charging station are still relativity new and current EV drivers are more likely to educate themselves in the proper use of the system. Just wait until the general public starts using them.


210 posted on 01/16/2022 3:19:07 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: setter

Free Beer Tomorrow.


211 posted on 01/16/2022 3:23:53 PM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: setter

Imagine the mess of electric cables. Not practical.
https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/OHCUiMtBiHMpzanyWXhdQA—~B/aD02ODM7dz0xMDI0O2FwcGlkPXl0YWNoeW9u/https://media.zenfs.com/en/the_independent_635/2d596085d0de9e07290051a84cd1809c


212 posted on 01/16/2022 3:30:47 PM PST by minnesota_bound (I need more money. )
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To: Honorary Serb

Toss in the subsidies, and it’s the many working class schlubs paying for vanity purchases by the wealthy few.


213 posted on 01/16/2022 3:31:18 PM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: BobL

So just a few EVs on your street could overwhelm the available juice.


214 posted on 01/16/2022 3:35:03 PM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

The rat push for EVs is one aspect of their push to destroy the middleclass.


215 posted on 01/16/2022 3:40:39 PM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Hojczyk

I’ve done the math before. The author is correct, to recharge a large number of vehicles at once would require a HUGE power requirement and there is NO WAY our power grid is anywhere near ready. We would need two to three times the number of power planets to provide the additional power. And then the accompanying infrastructure would need billions of dollars in upgrades.


216 posted on 01/16/2022 3:49:41 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Do we value what the Founding Fathers gave us enough to fight for it?)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Actually an electric motor has much more torque than a diesel engine. The problem arises with the battery storage.


217 posted on 01/16/2022 3:52:20 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Do we value what the Founding Fathers gave us enough to fight for it?)
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To: setter

Okay, but that still doesn’t address the additional power requirements. Two to three times as many power plants as currently exist will need to be built.


218 posted on 01/16/2022 3:56:10 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Do we value what the Founding Fathers gave us enough to fight for it?)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

From the linked article:

2. QuantumScape
QuantumScape is an industry-leading public company (NYSE: QS) that is developing solid-state lithium metal batteries for electric vehicles that provides both high specific energy and high energy density. The company is based in San-Jose and backed by Bill Gates, Volkswagen, Continental AG, and George Soros among other prominent investors.


219 posted on 01/16/2022 4:03:28 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Charging station are still relativity new and current EV drivers are more likely to educate themselves in the proper use of the system. Just wait until the general public starts using them

Ditto.

220 posted on 01/16/2022 4:05:24 PM PST by EVO X ( )
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