The Average Empire Survives for 250 Years. Is America at Death's Door?

Townhall.com ^ | January 13, 2022 | Armstrong Williams

[Repealthe17thAmendment]

While England has been a nation for close to a thousand years, it's place as the dominant political entity in the world was relatively short-lived.

I think what the author of the OP was getting at is that the US is the dominant political and economic force throughout the world, and has placed military assets in every corner of the planet.

The stability that we provide on a world stage is actually much more sound than the internal stability we are experiencing now with our cultural disintegration. But that is likely to change as our State Department and Defense Department move away from the primary mission, and move to progressive priorities.

[enumerated]

My point was that the intention of the Founders was not to form an Empire, but rather to form a Republic.

The difference IMHO is that a Republic is a consensual union, whereas an Empire is held together by coercion.

When did the union stop being consensual? - I think 1865.

But the good news is - that gives us another 80 or so years before our Empire reaches its expiration date! :-)

[GaryCrow]

Our downfall is immigration. The conspirators knew exactly how to accomplish it.

Exactly

America won't be conquered from the outside, it'll disappear under our noses when it's no longer inhabited by Americans.

[willfulknowledge]

People have been parroting that nonsense for years. John Glub played fast and loose with definition and timelines in order to fit his round pegs into square holes.

[redgolum]

That made me laugh.

But I like my humor like my coffee. Dark

[willfulknowledge]

People have been parroting that nonsense for years. John Glub ignored empires (ex: The Byzantine Empire, the Ottoman Empire, The Khmer Empire, etc) that didn’t fit his thesis and played fast and loose with definition and timelines in order to fit his round pegs into square holes. Glub alluded to that in his comment in THE FATE OF EMPIRES and
SEARCH FOR SURVIVAL
“The dates given
are largely arbitrary. Empires do not usually
begin or end on a certain date. There is
normally a gradual period of expansion and
then a period of decline.”

[seowulf]

I never looked at America as an empire. Since when did we become one?

Since about the time Horace Greeley said, "Go west young man."

[redgolum]

China, as we know it today, did not exist until the 30’s.

The period before was a series of small bandit kingdoms.

China HAD been unified several times before, and then split up for a period of time.

[seowulf]

China, as we know it today, did not exist until the 30’s.

Exactly. China as a culture and enthicity have been around for 5000 years or so, not any single empire or empire.

[9YearLurker]

One could argue that by the time the US was dominant it was primarily a front for the British Empire, which had learned to hide its power.

The Brits surpassed the Spanish by 1800, so one could argue that the Rothschild/British Empire globalists are due to fall over the next couple of decades.

[Bonemaker]

Suicide.

[Bonemaker]

....and spread out too thin all over the god forsaken ancient world.

[Sans-Culotte]

In other words, let other countries pay for their own defense. Europe, Israel, South Korea and Japan are rich enough to defend themselves. What’s the response to this argument?

I agree with that in principle. However, today's Congress would just blow the money on Climate change or some such other BS.

[Seruzawa]

It is a mistake to believe that this is fate. It is the result of people purposefully acting to destroy the civilization. We even know who many of them are, courtesy of George Soros and his henchmen. Empires aren’t fated to collapse. They are destroyed purposefully.

[equaviator]

The USA is not and has never been an “average empire”...Please make a note of it!

[x]

I don't know about that. We owe a lot to the opponents of imperialism in the early 20th century. The Republic versus Empire theme goes back to them. Earlier Americans didn't make that opposition so absolute and were willing to talk about America as an "Empire of Liberty," as Thomas Jefferson did. Jefferson, who became a symbol of the anti-imperialist movement used that phrase at least twice.

As the painting in the Capitol put it, "Westward the Course of Empire Takes Its Way."

[Bringbackthedraft]

We have had the longest running government in modern times. Empires have come and gone over the centuries. We had a good thing going, but we no longer have the spirit of the past. The pioneer spirit is gone, along with what was once a great “work” ethic. The last century had us riding high, but its been going down hill since the late 60’s. Our morality has declined, our politics has turned sour and our minds corrupted. Will we have a rebirth? Forgetaboutit, there are too many dark clouds on the horizon. Everything that was good about this country has been sold and transferred out, our economy was the glue that held us together. If you want America back, get our industry back and produce, skip the BS social issues, “its the economy stupid”. WE now have shortages? Ah, but isn’t it great we have a guy wining women’s swimming competitions?

[Portcall24]

All of the indicators point toward the show being over. I know folks for the last hundred years have said the same thing. People tend to think in terms of ethno-centric but also era-centric. They tend to think the past/present/future is centered on them. Most won’t believe their world has imploded until it is way too late to do anything about it.

[Levy78]

Seriously? We have ~800 bases throughout the world. Our currency is the worldMa reserve currency. I can go on and on.

[Organic Panic]

It’s a bit late for that. Prepare accordingly.