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White Christmas increasingly becoming just a dream for US
The Associated Press ^ | December 18, 2021 | by Seth Borenstein

Posted on 12/18/2021 1:13:15 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

A white Christmas seems to be slowly morphing from a reliable reality to a dream of snowy holidays past for large swaths of the United States in recent decades.

Analysis of 40 years of December 25 U.S. snow measurements shows that less of the country has snow for Christmas than in the 1980s.

The numbers are small enough that it’s difficult to tell whether this is a meaningful trend and, if so, whether climate change or natural weather variability is the cause, said University of Arizona atmospheric scientist Xubin Zeng, who ran the data.

Still, Zeng, who has published studies on decreasing snowpack in the western U.S. being connected to climate change, said the downward slide of white Christmases is consistent with global warming.

In 20 to 30 years “with climate warming, the prospects of a white Christmas in many parts of the U.S.A. will be slim indeed,” said Mark Serreze, director of the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colorado.

Several meteorologists cautioned about finding trends in complex data where both precipitation and temperature are factors. But despite those issues, fewer white Christmases seems associated with warmer temperatures from climate change, said Northern Illinois University meteorology professor Victor Gensini.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicago.suntimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: americanpravda; apepee; associatedpravda; carbonpropaganda; christmas; climatehoax; fakescience; globalwarming; hoax; itsover; propaganda; sethborenstein; snow; socialism
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To: Rurudyne

It’s hard to imagine that there’s anyone so ignorant that they don’t know what the phrase “white Christmas” means. Perhaps pretend ignorance, for scoring SJW points?


41 posted on 12/18/2021 2:15:18 PM PST by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The numbers are small enough that it’s difficult to tell whether this is a meaningful trend

It's not, but they never miss a chance to preach Global Warming caused by evil white people.

42 posted on 12/18/2021 2:16:09 PM PST by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I have always lived in the north and I have had more than my share. The latest we have ever gone without measurable snow here is December 20, but it looks we are going to push that later this year. Some years we have mild winters and some years we get smacked. If they are looking for a trend here, I’d like to see how they would establish that based of the weather history. Winter is like a box of chocolates...


43 posted on 12/18/2021 2:21:37 PM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

re: “The numbers are small enough that it’s difficult to tell whether this is a meaningful trend .... “

AND THAT, friends, is ALL you need to know. (i.e., they are trying to make things up again.)


44 posted on 12/18/2021 2:21:39 PM PST by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Chances of snow on the ground were a little greater 50 years ago but people were afraid of a new ice age.


45 posted on 12/18/2021 2:24:37 PM PST by x
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I wish these people would make up their minds. Why, just last night I watched the famous documentary film with Donnie Darko , “The Day After Tomorrow” and according to it climate change causes severe snowstorms.


46 posted on 12/18/2021 2:28:35 PM PST by sunny bonobo
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To: ealgeone

Nope but headline only readers see an entirely different context.


47 posted on 12/18/2021 2:29:12 PM PST by pfflier
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To: Fiji Hill

I seem to remember something about the odds of a white Christmas being very slIm.
Advertisers would offer really good savings if it was a white Christmas.


48 posted on 12/18/2021 2:35:00 PM PST by Leep ("What's the big deal" -joe biden)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The numbers are small enough that it’s difficult to tell whether this is a meaningful trend and, if so, whether climate change or natural weather variability is the cause, said University of Arizona atmospheric scientist Xubin Zeng, who ran the data.

Still...

There’s no still.

Propaganda propaganda propaganda.

The still is still no evidence of global warming.

That’s what he found.


49 posted on 12/18/2021 2:35:48 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This author is a DC transplant who knows nothing of mid-Atlantic weather.

See: https://www.weather.gov/lwx/2015christmas-statistics for the incredible variability in temperatures in DC/Baltimore region.

It’s not even on the top 5 chart, but I distinctly remember playing w/ my new K2 football (? is that what it was — a mini football - anyone remember when that came out?) in my grandmother’s yard on Christmas Day in the early 1970’s in 70-degree weather.

It’s not climate change you AP moron, it’s called “weather.”


50 posted on 12/18/2021 2:39:24 PM PST by nicollo
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Humans, Neanderthals and beavers are the only creatures known to alter the environment to benefit themselves.
Neanderthals were punished withe extinction, humans with covid19 and climate change.
Why do the beavers go unscathed?


51 posted on 12/18/2021 2:42:42 PM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (Why allow a government of thieves, liars, braggarts, traitors, cowards and perverts? )
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To: cherry
I grew up in Ohio, and I can count on one hand how many white Christmases I remember.

My dad said the same thing, and he's obviously old.

Oh, it's always cold in December, just not always snowy.

January in Ohio is a different story. It's almost always snowy or slushy.

52 posted on 12/18/2021 2:46:01 PM PST by boop (Imagine a mask smothering a human face, forever.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Somebody please tell Xubin Zeng and the rest of the IDIOTS at the ASS PRESS that I currently have 3 feet of the white muck outside my front door, they can come and haul it off anytime they like!


53 posted on 12/18/2021 2:47:45 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I live in the Seattle area. "White" Christmas is not something that we get all that often. One has to go to the mountain passes to see snow; or, the East side of the State.

Winter in Seattle looks like what I have been seeing out my window for most of the day --- rain.

54 posted on 12/18/2021 2:52:23 PM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: Rurudyne

Dave Chappelle “ I dreaming of a whitey Christmas”.


55 posted on 12/18/2021 2:56:26 PM PST by BipolarBob (WHY are there no Democrats on Mt. Rushmore?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I have noticed the warmer winter’s by the bills I pay to snow removal crew for some properties I own

We have had some winter’s they only plowed 7-8 times all winter.
25 years ago that was 4-5 days worth.


56 posted on 12/18/2021 2:58:03 PM PST by setter
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To: Billthedrill

Some day I am going to the Donner Pass Picnic Area.


57 posted on 12/18/2021 2:59:47 PM PST by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: Magic Fingers

No they really are that culturally ignorant.

My homeschooled culturally educated children tell me about it all the time.


58 posted on 12/18/2021 3:03:48 PM PST by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: Fiji Hill

Oddly enough I experienced a white Christmas down in Panama City Fl in 1989.

I left about 5am and drove down from Atlanta on the morning of Dec 24 and ran into heavy ice on the road (Hwy 231) about 20 miles north of PC (the city, not the beaches). A serious ice storm had tracked along the gulf coast the night before, there were icicles hanging from the power lines, ice covered the roads. My car thermometer showed 16F at about 9am Christmas Eve morning.

I grew up in the Fla panhandle and haven’t seen anything like it before or since. I arrived at my parents house with icicles hanging off the bumper of my car.


59 posted on 12/18/2021 3:06:10 PM PST by Roadrunner383 (;)
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To: Billthedrill

I’ve had snow on the ground from Thanksgiving till Easter a few times and once till cinco de Mayo here in the mountains of Pa. in the last 15 or 20 years and my buddies 75 year old dock on the Chesapeake hasn’t been been swamped yet…. so global warming is still a crock of shit.


60 posted on 12/18/2021 3:13:55 PM PST by gdc61 (LOL not.)
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