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The largest city in the U.S. bans natural gas in new buildings
NPR ^ | 12/15/2021 | DEEPA SHIVARAM

Posted on 12/15/2021 7:47:40 PM PST by MAGA2017

In a vote Wednesday, New York's city council approved a ban on natural gas in newly constructed buildings, joining cities like San Jose and San Francisco that have made similar commitments to reduce emissions.

Moving away from natural gas means that stoves and heat pumps will be powered by electricity instead, cutting down on carbon emissions. Nearly 40% of carbon emissions in the country — and more than half of New York City's emissions — come from buildings.

The new ban, with 40 votes in the affirmative and seven votes against the measure, applies to buildings that are seven stories or shorter by the end of 2023; buildings that are taller have an additional four years to comply. There are some exceptions in the bill, including hospitals, laundromats and crematoriums.

"This bill was about prioritizing people over profits and properties," Council member Alicka Ampry-Samuel, who led the effort to pass the bill, said at a rally outside city hall Wednesday afternoon. "We are at a point in our lifetimes that we need to act. We need to make sure we are protecting and saving our environment."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: ban; carbonpropaganda; climatehoax; energy; fakescience; naturalgas; newyork; npr; ny
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1 posted on 12/15/2021 7:47:40 PM PST by MAGA2017
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They can always burn coal


2 posted on 12/15/2021 7:49:21 PM PST by PGR88
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They can always burn coal

I was wondering about that. I worked in the City 1974-82. If I recall, lots of ConEd generators were coal. I'm sure by now natgas and oil.

3 posted on 12/15/2021 7:51:35 PM PST by llevrok (Pronouns: Me/myself/& I)
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To: MAGA2017

Electricity from the New York grid has a higher carbon footprint than burning natural gas for heat. This is pure virtue signaling insanity.


4 posted on 12/15/2021 7:52:03 PM PST by edwinland
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To: MAGA2017

And how is all that electricity going to be made? Nuke? Coal? LNG? Pick your poison as all have trade offs.


5 posted on 12/15/2021 7:52:53 PM PST by Liaison (TANSTAAFL)
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To: MAGA2017

Just like a lot of locales in caulifourkneeyu. Let me just say......fidiots. just got an email today from NVEnergy saying in the last year their natural gas costs have gone up 15-20% so......... Sir-prize! Happy New year! LETS GO BRANDON!


6 posted on 12/15/2021 7:52:58 PM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: MAGA2017

So we are going to use natural gas to generate electricty so we can use that electricity to generate heat? Does anyone understand basic thermodynamics?


7 posted on 12/15/2021 7:53:54 PM PST by LukeL
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To: MAGA2017

Electric heat pumps won’t “cut down on carbon emissions” until we support the grid with more nuclear powered generating facilities.


8 posted on 12/15/2021 7:54:23 PM PST by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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Heat pumps?! Heat pumps in New York City?!

Heat pumps get very inefficient when the temperature gets below 27 degrees Fahrenheit. New York City gets well below that routinely in winter months. If the whole city were heated that way you would have blackouts and people freezing in the dark. This is insanity.
9 posted on 12/15/2021 7:54:27 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("There are only men and women."-- George Gilder, Sexual Suicide, 1973)
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To: wattojawa

Ping


10 posted on 12/15/2021 7:54:41 PM PST by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: MAGA2017

Heating, water heating, cooking etc. waste a lot of energy if electricity is used. Having to converge the gas in power plant to electricity, then transport by wire and burn to heat is very inefficient from the scientific point of view and having large carbon footprint!
Theis solution is making things worse!


11 posted on 12/15/2021 7:55:18 PM PST by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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Insanity


12 posted on 12/15/2021 7:55:24 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I know. And every one in NH and ME is installing them


13 posted on 12/15/2021 7:56:12 PM PST by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Bingo.

And the worse thing you can do with an electric heat pump is to program an overnight set-back.

Temperature recovery is then attempted at the coldest hours of the day.


14 posted on 12/15/2021 7:56:18 PM PST by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: Dr. Sivana

If the whole city were heated that way you would have blackouts and people freezing in the dark. This is insanity.


Stinks to be in NYC.

(Literally, I know.)

Glad our family got out, a few years ago.


15 posted on 12/15/2021 7:58:07 PM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12 )
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Had a heat pump in Va...Not gonna happen in NY.

Some very rich person in the area had one but could only be used seasonally. That was years ago.

16 posted on 12/15/2021 7:59:31 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: MAGA2017

I’m sure every chef in the city is thrilled to hear this. Wonderful, lets use a electric griddle to cook your 5 star meal. I’m sure restaurants will eventually get a exemption.


17 posted on 12/15/2021 7:59:57 PM PST by Theoria
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To: MAGA2017

How do these goobers think electricity is generated in a reliable fashion?


18 posted on 12/15/2021 8:00:08 PM PST by Savage Rider
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To: edwinland

That is what they do.

There is all kinds of gas in PA, WV and Ohio, yet they will not allow new pipelines. MA buys Russian gas when supplies are tight in the winter. These people will one day figure out that their glorious leaders are treating them like serfs.


19 posted on 12/15/2021 8:00:25 PM PST by phormer phrog phlyer
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Glad our family got out, a few years ago.

I was in Connecticut as a regular visitor to NYC (former fianceé in Brooklyn). Some people are drawn back even after they leave. I haven't been in NYC since 1997. I drive around it and take I-84 when driving to/from CT. I do NOT miss it.
20 posted on 12/15/2021 8:00:40 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("There are only men and women."-- George Gilder, Sexual Suicide, 1973)
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