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Stunning: Facebook court filing admits their 'fact checks' are just a matter of opinion
American Thinker ^ | 12/10/2021 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 12/10/2021 10:29:56 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Surprisingly little attention is being paid to a bombshell admission made by the attorneys representing the corporation formerly known as Facebook, Inc., which has now transitioned into Meta Platforms, Inc.

In a court filing responding to a lawsuit filed by John Stossel claiming that he was defamed by a "fact check" Facebook used to label a video by him as "misleading," Meta's attorneys assert that the "fact check" was an "opinion," not an actual check of facts and declaration of facts.  Under libel law, opinions are protected from liability for libel.

Anthony Watts of Wattsupwiththat explains:

Opinions are not subject to defamation claims, while false assertions of fact can be subject to defamation. The quote in Facebook's complaint is,

Meta's attorneys come from the white shoe law firm Wilmer Cutler Pickering Hale and Dore, with over a thousand attorneys and more than a billion dollars a year in revenue.  They obviously checked out the implications of the matter for Section 230 issues, the legal protection Facebook/Meta have from liability for what is posted on their site.  But at a minimum, this is a public relations disaster, revealing that their "fact checks" are not factual at all and should be labeled as "our opinion" or some such language avoiding the word "fact."

As an amateur, it seems to me that if Facebook inserts its opinions into posts or blocks them because of its opinion, then that does make it a publisher with legal responsibility for what appears on its website.

Technically speaking, Facebook farms out its "fact-checking" to outside organizations, usually left-wing groups.  In the case of Stossel's video that was defamed, the outside website is called "Climate Feedback," which is also named a defendant in the lawsuit.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: facebook; factchecks; opinion; searchandfind
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1 posted on 12/10/2021 10:29:56 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: upchuck

FIE ping!


2 posted on 12/10/2021 10:42:15 PM PST by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: SeekAndFind

They are trying to claim the label of something being “misleading” or “false” etc with a related fact-check link is not itself an assertion of fact....give me a break.


3 posted on 12/10/2021 10:50:39 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: SeekAndFind

Farcebook, Fakecheck! Now we understand! Lifson is a very good reporter/writer.


4 posted on 12/10/2021 11:20:19 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures )
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To: SeekAndFind

John Stoessel has been around in media for a long time.
I think he used to have specials on ABC, sometimes after Ted Koppel finally finished talking.
Apparently, John is still in the fight for personal freedom.


5 posted on 12/10/2021 11:23:23 PM PST by lee martell
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To: SeekAndFind

They’ve lost face. Time to commit hari kari.


6 posted on 12/10/2021 11:25:37 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: SeekAndFind

Samwise to Frodo: “There’s no truth in him (Gollum) Mr. Frodo, only lies.”


7 posted on 12/11/2021 12:01:34 AM PST by spirited irish ( )
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Faux Book. Rarely post there anymore, always preface it “with before you clowns flag me”......then post actual facts to later be told it was “ debunked” or “dehumidified” or whatever. FACE cist Book


8 posted on 12/11/2021 1:49:53 AM PST by scott says (Servant of the Living God--YHVH)
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To: SeekAndFind

That deleted posts on FacePlant are based upon ‘opinion’ is no real surprise to anyone on the right. And it doesn’t matter if the ‘opinion’ originated at FacePlant or a sub-contractor; that is immaterial.

IMHO the position taken by promoting the ‘opinion’ label is an attempt to move the discussion away from the absolute fact that the driving force in deciding what to censor is nothing but pure leftist ideology.

The section 230 language protecting the ‘platform only’ status of FacePlant, Twits, etc should be removed and let the lawsuits and the legal system work out what these platforms should allow. Unfortunately the only real winners in that scenario will be the legal profession.


9 posted on 12/11/2021 2:57:01 AM PST by ByteMercenary (Slo-Joe and KamalHo are not my leaders.)
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To: SeekAndFind

#FFB

#FMarkZuckerberg


10 posted on 12/11/2021 3:01:31 AM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: SeekAndFind

Of course they’re opinions. As are all the other media “fact checks.”

The problem is the “fact check” label being used without at least honestly advising people that these “fact checks” are still actually only opinions.

The only real “fact checks” that might rightly be called such would be for the most simple, straightforward, and incontrovertible situations. For example, a political speech in which a politician misidentifies another politician. “When John Smith was senator 10 years ago...” when John Smith wasn’t. And like Biden and that train story.

But for complex issues and controversies, the MSM “fact checks” are the style used by the Soviet Union and the CCP.


11 posted on 12/11/2021 3:50:28 AM PST by Faith Presses On (Willing to die for Christ, if it's His will--politics should prepare people for the Gospel)
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To: SeekAndFind

More like power grabs, too.


12 posted on 12/11/2021 3:52:29 AM PST by Faith Presses On (Willing to die for Christ, if it's His will--politics should prepare people for the Gospel)
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To: SeekAndFind
Does Facebook declare there fact checks as opinion?

Did they in this case?

13 posted on 12/11/2021 4:17:48 AM PST by CptnObvious
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh my. Facebook is planting misinformation under the guise of fact checking. We already knew that. It’s typical leftist thinking that they’re always right about everything, and their opinions are the facts. Probably some kid in mom’s basement.


14 posted on 12/11/2021 4:33:16 AM PST by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them )
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Lifson is a very good reporter/writer.

He's not showing it here.

FB didn't say the fact check was opinion. It said their labels, which report the fact checkers conclusion, were.

I'm not sure how those labels become defamatory.

15 posted on 12/11/2021 4:39:27 AM PST by semimojo
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To: SeekAndFind

Their defense would be more believable if the labels were “opinion checks.” Calling them “fact checks” seems to be a very strong suggestion that they’re being asserted as fact, not opinion.


16 posted on 12/11/2021 4:45:54 AM PST by sonjay
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To: SeekAndFind

The problem is not that FB makes bold assertions that are utterly false, but that we’ve raised generations of children incapable of critical thinking.


17 posted on 12/11/2021 5:12:52 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (No nation that sanctions the wholesale slaughter of its unborn citizens is fit to endure.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Seems the communists are changing the definition of the word definition


18 posted on 12/11/2021 6:20:34 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: SeekAndFind
Its nice to have protected opinions.
19 posted on 12/11/2021 6:45:50 AM PST by Delta 21 (Quarantine the sick. Protect the vulnerable. Hang the guilty. Free everyone else.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The one good thing about Facebook is that it showed us just how many idiots there really are out there.


20 posted on 12/11/2021 8:17:52 AM PST by Roccus (Prima di ogni altra cosa, siati armati!)
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