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Police: Orange City woman fatally shot after pointing gun at man
The Daytona Beach Journal ^ | November 22, 2021 | Patricio G. Balona

Posted on 11/27/2021 3:45:54 AM PST by marktwain

ORANGE CITY — An Orange City woman who was also a Volusia County librarian was fatally shot Saturday after she pointed a handgun at a man whose motorcycle she had earlier hit and the man returned fire.

The shooting occurred at about 5:14 p.m. at the woman's home in the 1000 block of E. Wisconsin Ave., said Orange City Police Lt. Jason Sampsell.

In a press release, the police identified the woman as Sara-Nicole Morales, 35. A press release from Volusia County identified Morales as an employee of the county's library system.

The motorcyclist was identified as Andrew Derr, 40, also of Orange City. He has not been charged, and police said he has been cooperating with the investigation from the beginning.

Morales drove to the Wisconsin Avenue home after she hit the motorcyclist on Volusia Avenue/US 17-92. The motorcycle was not badly damaged, and Derr followed her to the home, and at one point he told Morales to stop and that police had been called, said Orange City police Lt. Jason Sampsell.

A 9-1-1 recording of the incident indicates Morales pulled a gun on Derr on the street in front of her Orange City home.

“You are three men who followed me, you were screaming at me,” Morales can be heard shouting.

Before Morales could finish talking, eight gunshots can be heard in the recording.

“She tried to pull a gun on me,” a man can be heard saying.

A witness then told the 9-1-1 dispatcher, “The lady is shot. The dude on the bike shot her. He shot her in self-defense.”

Morales intentionally struck Derr's motorcycle, but because the motorcycle was moving, Derr was not injured, Sampsell said. Morales and Derr exchanged words just before she struck him, Sampsell added.

"We don't know why she hit him." Sampsell said. "She swerved into him and prior to the vehicle making impact he warned her to stay away, and he is pulling away and she gets to the side of him and comes right into him."

The motorcyclist and two other witnesses, who did not know each other, then followed Morales to her home in attempt to help identify her for police, Sampsell said.

Once at the home, Morales exchanged words with Derr and the witnesses and then went into her house and came back with a gun, the lieutenant said.

"Morales pointed a handgun at the witnesses and Derr," a press release states. "Derr having a valid Florida concealed weapons permit, drew his concealed handgun and fired multiple rounds, striking Morales."

Morales was hit several times. She was taken to Halifax Health Medical Center where she died of her injuries, Sampsell said.

Morales’ handgun was recovered on-scene, investigators said. Derr remained on scene, the press release states.

The Orange City Police Department and the State Attorney’s Office are continuing to investigate the shooting.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; defense; fl; florida; freeperhooligans; motorcycle
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This is a very peculiar case. The woman was a librarian, and pregnant. She gets home, goes inside, and comes out with a handgun, yelling they are three men who followed her and were screaming at her...

All after she reportedly deliberately hit a motorcyclist?

1 posted on 11/27/2021 3:45:54 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

She sounded hungry. She should have just stopped for food.


2 posted on 11/27/2021 3:49:44 AM PST by JoanSmith
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To: marktwain

Biker Shoots and Kills Pregnant Woman!


3 posted on 11/27/2021 3:50:17 AM PST by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: marktwain
Morales? Probably a Mexican firecracker.


4 posted on 11/27/2021 3:53:28 AM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: marktwain

Lot’s of angry people out and about. I will wait for more details on this story.


5 posted on 11/27/2021 3:53:30 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (This will be a hot extract.)
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To: ComputerGuy

If you are trying to be sarcastic about a potential democrat party media headline, wouldn’t the following be more realistic?

“White biker wearing a MAGA hat shoots and murders black, pregnant woman coming home from working with at-risk black children!!!”

Just a thought.


6 posted on 11/27/2021 3:54:31 AM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: marktwain
If you pull a gun, use it {or lose it}.

Using a weapon and telling some one to "stick'em up" is not a good plan.

If your life is truly in danger, kill the perp, if not, don't play "pretend cowboy".

7 posted on 11/27/2021 3:57:05 AM PST by USS Alaska (NUKE ALL MOOSELIMB TERRORISTS, NOW.)
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To: joma89

Save the details for the body of the article.


8 posted on 11/27/2021 4:02:09 AM PST by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: marktwain

The quick and the dead.


9 posted on 11/27/2021 4:02:15 AM PST by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.p)
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To: mad_as_he$$

I wish both of those parties were as smart as you on this.


10 posted on 11/27/2021 4:04:33 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Biker Shoots and Kills Pregnant Woman!

…who is also a Volusia County librarian. That was some odd syntax in the first sentence of the article.

11 posted on 11/27/2021 4:06:53 AM PST by NautiNurse (Who will portray Alec Baldwin in the SNL skit? )
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this story does not seem right to me....she deliberately swung into him but then left....he followed her to her house....she felt threatened by three strangers outside her house...the strangers confronted her...she got her gun....it was not said that she fired...

its too cozy that 2 strangers decided to also follow this motorcyclist to the womans home....too cozy....

12 posted on 11/27/2021 4:06:59 AM PST by cherry
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I have never seen a librarian who looked that sexy. Just the face. Yet still...that woman has got the look...Oh wait, she is dead. Never mind.


13 posted on 11/27/2021 4:08:10 AM PST by Trumpet 1 (US Constitution is my guide.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Here are more details. Both sides called 911. Police say they have verified the motorcyclists story with interviews from witnesses.

A tragic case. Hormones?

14 posted on 11/27/2021 4:08:34 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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Here is the link to a followup article.
15 posted on 11/27/2021 4:09:57 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: NautiNurse

Our HS librarian would just give you the evil eye.


16 posted on 11/27/2021 4:11:29 AM PST by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: marktwain

And as always, the morale of any gun story is if you pull a gun, you’d better use it. This woman seems to have only wanted to use the weapon to scare the people who followed her home after she committed a crime.


17 posted on 11/27/2021 4:16:02 AM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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I think the “apparent” fact that she introduced her gun into the situation between her and the motorcyclist is ultimately going to weigh in against her.

I think that him shooting 8 times is going to weigh heavily against the motorcycle guy. Also, it looks like it might end up being a case where a white guy shoots a hispanic woman librarian 8 times!!! That’s not good in todays political/media world.

It will be an interesting case.


18 posted on 11/27/2021 4:33:05 AM PST by Cen-Tejas
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To: Trumpet 1

“I have never seen a librarian who looked that sexy. “

Agree, and what was she doing out of the house? Most librarians are spend their free time trying to find LGBT pornography to push on little kids.


19 posted on 11/27/2021 4:33:41 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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Sara-Nicole Morales:Protected class
Andrew Derr: Oppressor class
From CNN: Must be a racist hate crime.


20 posted on 11/27/2021 4:55:29 AM PST by Tupelo
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